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[173.13.139.236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s6si2175877icv.0.2011.11.04.01.29.11 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 04 Nov 2011 01:29:11 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rlpowell@stodi.digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.236; Received: from rlpowell by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RMF9B-0007Bq-Nh for lojban@googlegroups.com; Fri, 04 Nov 2011 01:29:10 -0700 Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 01:29:08 -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Use fu'ivla more (was Re: [lojban] Supporting Lojbanic babies.) Message-ID: <20111104082908.GP27896@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@googlegroups.com References: <20111101095715.GD15924@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20111102003244.GK15924@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rlpowell@stodi.digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rlpowell@stodi.digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Wed, Nov 02, 2011 at 04:49:22PM -0300, Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: > On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Ian Johnson > wrote: > > > > Incidentally, it would be kinda nice if type 4s could have > > rafsi, so that you could coin just a few basic jargon concepts > > and then interrelate the others using lujvo. For example you > > could have a lujvo of "integrated circuit" and a handful of > > others and with a little more work you could coin a lot of the > > jargon hardware terms as lujvo. >=20 > The PEG morphology gives rafsi to every fu'ivla. >=20 > In last place, the rafsi is just the full fu'ivla, as with gismu, > except you need to preceed it with y-ending rafsi only (which is > not a problem because every brivla has at least one of those). In > non-last place, the rafsi is formed by adding 'y (apostrophe y) to > the fu'ivla. They also can only be preceded by y-rafsi. If the > fu'ivla starts with a vowel, the dot becomes an apostrophe when > not in initial position. >=20 > (Some fu'ivla also have somewhat shorter rafsi, formed by > replacing the last vowel with a y, but it is hard to precisely > specify the class of fu'ivla that allow this. Basically as long as > it can't be confused with an ordinary lujvo.) Can you show me a few examples of use here? -Robin --=20 http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" is "na nei". My personal page: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/ --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.