Received: from mail-iy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.210.189]:56428) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RMINI-0000Sj-HH; Fri, 04 Nov 2011 04:56:07 -0700 Received: by iage36 with SMTP id e36sf3586615iag.16 for ; Fri, 04 Nov 2011 04:55:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:mime-version:user-agent:sender:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=gqWq/rlXkGQx7XgmlTLKI9Rh5SM9RPdZtsJ9E9rfQks=; b=zFDvXG2px3KfjQQqI0dBOEObB1doYaf5u8kHZobs2jK9IsRwCewOacrdN1vi2SpceZ 92EeQJqhftfHabVLofYs3DlkFgbfmOQaERQ7DCT+FA5esqjA+9xHo/AeQ9cznDh5vMf5 PJAAYUWLV9g+mLzY/JdwnicpyARfojv/qwokI= Received: by 10.50.149.193 with SMTP id uc1mr1381176igb.17.1320407613844; Fri, 04 Nov 2011 04:53:33 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.63.137 with SMTP id b9ls6174621ibi.0.gmail; Fri, 04 Nov 2011 04:53:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.43.50.201 with SMTP id vf9mr18954219icb.2.1320407611826; Fri, 04 Nov 2011 04:53:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.43.50.201 with SMTP id vf9mr18954218icb.2.1320407611812; Fri, 04 Nov 2011 04:53:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stodi.digitalkingdom.org (mail.digitalkingdom.org. [173.13.139.236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m4si3111267ict.6.2011.11.04.04.53.31 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 04 Nov 2011 04:53:31 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of nobody@stodi.digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.236; Received: from nobody by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RMIKw-0000Q6-44 for lojban@googlegroups.com; Fri, 04 Nov 2011 04:53:30 -0700 Received: from rlpowell by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RMIKv-0000Pz-Od for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 04 Nov 2011 04:53:29 -0700 Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 04:53:29 -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] babies: "you might as well sleep" Message-ID: <20111104115329.GG30208@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of nobody@stodi.digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=nobody@stodi.digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / (please not, I am, as previously mentioned, *not* looking for a translation of the English idiom, but rather idiomatic Lojban with the same semantics) The sentence I was trying for was something like "You know, you're looking around all interested in stuff, but you don't actually understand anything, so you might as well just sleep". The first bit was something like {za'a do jundi .i ku'i do jimpe no da .i se ki'u bo ...}, and I get stuck on that last bit. I'm having trouble nailing down what I intend to mean semantically, basically; that sentiment is encoded in my mind as that exact English phrase, a problem I have on occassion. -Robin -- http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" is "na nei". My personal page: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.