Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]:33859) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RMKGQ-0003A3-5Y; Fri, 04 Nov 2011 06:57:04 -0700 Received: by wye20 with SMTP id 20sf4627534wye.16 for ; Fri, 04 Nov 2011 06:56:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:message-id:date:from:user-agent :mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=01ZUbKiCCjE4fzQzgszYMuXvA9/aN1hyookzBdaaGac=; b=0zqM7BL3PCTkKvOxAs+hJzLyt89Ke6UYfWQhdH6q1ot6yLPqacdW6uoN4UdcRZO/kt nbGdbMpa9NBhouDs9Ase1KkgTm7Tq/dSD/Y+sG3NTme2xlEmrkbBRoL/KHXJfiIhLd3p /7oS/VcmyWY5W4ZNMwy0qgAfS7VTRmKWN8rFc= Received: by 10.216.137.38 with SMTP id x38mr99510wei.33.1320415007910; Fri, 04 Nov 2011 06:56:47 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.227.200.140 with SMTP id ew12ls6382696wbb.3.gmail; Fri, 04 Nov 2011 06:56:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.203.78 with SMTP id fh14mr1150623wbb.2.1320415006683; Fri, 04 Nov 2011 06:56:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.203.78 with SMTP id fh14mr1150622wbb.2.1320415006664; Fri, 04 Nov 2011 06:56:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wy0-f174.google.com (mail-wy0-f174.google.com [74.125.82.174]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fd1si4900823wbb.0.2011.11.04.06.56.46 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 04 Nov 2011 06:56:46 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of and.rosta@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.174 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.174; Received: by mail-wy0-f174.google.com with SMTP id 15so2308989wyh.19 for ; Fri, 04 Nov 2011 06:56:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.81.208 with SMTP id m58mr446050wee.87.1320415006551; Fri, 04 Nov 2011 06:56:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.84] (87-194-76-177.bethere.co.uk. [87.194.76.177]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ff6sm16151200wbb.10.2011.11.04.06.56.44 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 04 Nov 2011 06:56:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4EB3EF1B.3030804@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2011 13:56:43 +0000 From: And Rosta User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110920 Thunderbird/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Use fu'ivla more (was Re: [lojban] Supporting Lojbanic babies.) References: <20111101095715.GD15924@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20111102003244.GK15924@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20111104082822.GO27896@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> In-Reply-To: <20111104082822.GO27896@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> X-Original-Sender: and.rosta@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of and.rosta@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.174 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=and.rosta@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Robin Lee Powell, On 04/11/2011 08:28: > In that particular case, though, it doesn't really work; "menli > sepli" doesn't mean anything like "distinguish" to me at all. I'd > take that to mean "can keep two issues seperate in one's mind", like > a therapist who sees both of a married couple and has to keep their > issues seperated mentally. If you showed me your Lojban definition > there, I'd *never* have come up with a meaning remotely like the > English word "distinguish", which to me has nothing whatsoever to do > with {sepli}. "distinguish" is about being able to tell the > differences between things, which is {frica} I think. In other > words, and I'm sorry, menseika'e is a really bad word IMO for the > stated English meaning. frica, or drata, or na zei du. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.