Received: from mail-bw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.214.61]:56216) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RMQZ8-0006tx-1R; Fri, 04 Nov 2011 13:40:50 -0700 Received: by bkat2 with SMTP id t2sf2615054bka.16 for ; Fri, 04 Nov 2011 13:40:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=jg2aPWwkNq3JqJhxS2rNdz1knBEWBRgCulKnqY7wM6E=; b=3ykodFLil6QFndgHFhHU7F3qgkXTx+ZiBEdjG4mg3fVS0euPzVTAIGpzoXQqk/9umH T3D9LMLJrrbWRIEgyHTzd3ys83uoGu9xNr2GiUdJHxPfBwwzfAyl+Xd1whabVaD5cb8e 1oM6yN3raDeDaCBQQTw40y9NxyF5PbZZd/hKM= Received: by 10.204.140.10 with SMTP id g10mr1504837bku.12.1320439231862; Fri, 04 Nov 2011 13:40:31 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.152.154 with SMTP id g26ls7373666bkw.3.gmail; Fri, 04 Nov 2011 13:40:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.140.198 with SMTP id j6mr1930128bku.8.1320438293059; Fri, 04 Nov 2011 13:24:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.140.198 with SMTP id j6mr1930127bku.8.1320438293027; Fri, 04 Nov 2011 13:24:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-bw0-f52.google.com (mail-bw0-f52.google.com [209.85.214.52]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a16si1704656bku.3.2011.11.04.13.24.52 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 04 Nov 2011 13:24:53 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.52 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.52; Received: by bkbc12 with SMTP id c12so3585380bkb.11 for ; Fri, 04 Nov 2011 13:24:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.9.1 with SMTP id j1mr13133245bkj.57.1320438292470; Fri, 04 Nov 2011 13:24:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.40.73 with HTTP; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 13:24:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20111102071258.GA29201@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <201111020621.37040.phma@phma.optus.nu> <20111102102853.GJ15498@nvg.org> <201111020941.30684.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 16:24:52 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Big baby words list From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.52 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151758f34c5edb9004b0ee7fd2 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --00151758f34c5edb9004b0ee7fd2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 (ta'urva'u) was clearly a mistake, and Arnt meant tai'rva'u --gejyspa On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > Here's the list so far (including the ones from other topics: > ----- > Here's what Arnt and Pierre came up with while I was sleeping. Arnt's are > first because he replied first: > > hug: xadjai, pamjai > hiccup: ipkota - fu'ivla from Spanish "hipo" and Russian "ikota" - "x1 > hiccups/is a hiccuper" > blanket: boxfo, bukpu, ckagai > Cute: citmle > Yawn: moltenva'u, ta'irva'u, ta'urva'u > Suck: sakcpu > ceiling: drudi, tolyloi > burp: kafke, befkafke, befkafkygau > > And this is from the other topics that have replies: > > on one side: mlapau > cry: cmoni > eyes open: Pierre says kanri and ganlo work (referring to eyelids), Arnt > says {loi kalgai cu kalri}, as to him, {lo kanla cu kalri} smacks of eye > surgery. > move: tolcando (Kevin: Note that the gismu list notes for {cando} > specifically call "the negation of this" as being motion without change in > location.) > ----- > > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > >> So, before I send the list off to Robin, what's the meaning of "ipkota"? >> "x1 hiccups"? >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 7:41 AM, Pierre Abbat wrote: >> >>> On Wednesday 02 November 2011 06:28:53 Arnt Richard Johansen wrote: >>> > On Wed, Nov 02, 2011 at 06:21:31AM -0400, Pierre Abbat wrote: >>> > > On Wednesday 02 November 2011 03:12:58 Robin Lee Powell wrote: >>> > > > hiccup >>> > > >>> > > ipkota >>> > >>> > That is a coining of yours, right? I like it. What's the etymology? Any >>> > suggestion for place structure? I would probably make it intransitive, >>> with >>> > x1 as the hiccup-er, to parallel with {senci}. >>> >>> I just made it up yesterday, and sometimes metathesize it to "ikpota". >>> It's >>> Spanish "hipo" combined with Russian "ikota". I'm guessing both are >>> imitative; es:wikt says so, but ru:wikt has an unfilled stub. I defined >>> it as >>> intransitive. >>> >>> The Latin word is "singultus/singulto" (n/v). The Italians still use this >>> word, "singhiozzo", but other Romance languages have innovated. French >>> is "hoquet/hips" (n/int). >>> >>> Pierre >>> -- >>> gau do li'i co'e kei do >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "lojban" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >> >> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o >> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) >> >> > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > (Come to the Dot Side! 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=A0 (ta'urva'u) was clearly a mistake, and Arnt me= ant tai'rva'u
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On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 a= t 10:57 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
Here's the list so far (including the o= nes from other topics:
-----
Here's what Arnt and Pierre came up = with while I was sleeping. Arnt's are first because he replied first:
hug: xadjai, pamjai
hiccup: ipkota - fu'ivla from Spanish "hipo" and Russian &quo= t;ikota" - "x1 hiccups/is a hiccuper"
blanket: boxfo, buk= pu, ckagai
Cute: citmle
Yawn: moltenva'u, ta'irva'u, ta&#= 39;urva'u
Suck: sakcpu
ceiling: drudi, tolyloi
burp: kafke, befkafke, befkafkyg= au

And this is from the other topics that have replies:

on on= e side: mlapau
cry: c= moni
eyes=20 open: Pierre says kanri and ganlo work (referring to eyelids), Arnt says {loi kalgai cu kalri}, as to him, {lo kanla cu kalri} smacks of eye=20 surgery.
move: tolcando (Kevin: Note that the gismu list notes for {cando}=20 specifically call "the negation of this" as being motion without = change=20 in location.)
-----


On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus= @gmail.com> wrote:
So, before I send the list off to Robin, what's the meaning of "ip= kota"? "x1 hiccups"?


On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 7:41 AM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.= optus.nu> wrote:
On Wednesday 02 November 2011 06:28:53 = Arnt Richard Johansen wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 02, 2011 at 06:21:31AM -0400, Pierre Abbat wrote:
> > On Wednesday 02 November 2011 03:12:58 Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > > hiccup
> >
> > ipkota
>
> That is a coining of yours, right? I like it. What's the etymology= ? Any
> suggestion for place structure? I would probably make it intransitive,= with
> x1 as the hiccup-er, to parallel with {senci}.

I just made it up yesterday, and sometimes metathesize it to "ik= pota". It's
Spanish "hipo" combined with Russian "ikota". I'm g= uessing both are
imitative; es:wikt says so, but ru:wikt has an unfilled stub. I defined it = as
intransitive.

The Latin word is "singultus/singulto" (n/v). The Italians still = use this
word, "singhiozzo", but other Romance languages have innovated. F= rench
is "hoquet/hips" (n/int).

Pierre
--
gau do li'i co'e kei do

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--
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