Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]:36558) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RMbGv-0003eN-OD; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 01:06:44 -0700 Received: by wye20 with SMTP id 20sf6213066wye.16 for ; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 01:06:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=PaQ3Mm8FUEkpMiazwZxamBaRFz2HhLZIq9rTZJ9jeiw=; b=EyHCDEy7aHCMoLBjIdAkG3uvORfb8XwUWm/Zj25+1cZfAL2l07l1nE5rbvJ9uNOgGL xlBXAwUe9nbv5O546rhkE6CEX5viz9KWwnjl8jc6pHdyrgH7/NAGibmqlXnVKCP4pvv1 eeLIFa5z5dp/s437P7v1/agcGyFJSg8i0G/2A= Received: by 10.216.136.103 with SMTP id v81mr209632wei.79.1320480387284; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 01:06:27 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.67.21 with SMTP id i21ls11941035wed.0.gmail; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 01:06:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.158.75 with SMTP id p53mr98212wek.3.1320480386159; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 01:06:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.158.75 with SMTP id p53mr98211wek.3.1320480386132; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 01:06:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wy0-f172.google.com (mail-wy0-f172.google.com [74.125.82.172]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t38si6177360wbo.2.2011.11.05.01.06.26 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 05 Nov 2011 01:06:26 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of cntrational@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.172 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.172; Received: by mail-wy0-f172.google.com with SMTP id 30so4748606wyg.17 for ; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 01:06:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.72.146 with SMTP id d18mr2405043wiv.12.1320480386050; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 01:06:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.96.167 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 01:05:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20111102071258.GA29201@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <201111020621.37040.phma@phma.optus.nu> <20111102102853.GJ15498@nvg.org> <201111020941.30684.phma@phma.optus.nu> From: Sid Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 13:35:45 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Big baby words list To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: cntrational@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of cntrational@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.172 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=cntrational@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043c7b9857e96f04b0f84c55 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --f46d043c7b9857e96f04b0f84c55 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 "singultus" might also be a good fu'ivla candidate, given that it's the accepted medical term. On 5 November 2011 01:54, Michael Turniansky wrote: > (ta'urva'u) was clearly a mistake, and Arnt meant tai'rva'u > --gejyspa > > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > >> Here's the list so far (including the ones from other topics: >> ----- >> Here's what Arnt and Pierre came up with while I was sleeping. Arnt's are >> first because he replied first: >> >> hug: xadjai, pamjai >> hiccup: ipkota - fu'ivla from Spanish "hipo" and Russian "ikota" - "x1 >> hiccups/is a hiccuper" >> blanket: boxfo, bukpu, ckagai >> Cute: citmle >> Yawn: moltenva'u, ta'irva'u, ta'urva'u >> Suck: sakcpu >> ceiling: drudi, tolyloi >> burp: kafke, befkafke, befkafkygau >> >> And this is from the other topics that have replies: >> >> on one side: mlapau >> cry: cmoni >> eyes open: Pierre says kanri and ganlo work (referring to eyelids), Arnt >> says {loi kalgai cu kalri}, as to him, {lo kanla cu kalri} smacks of eye >> surgery. >> move: tolcando (Kevin: Note that the gismu list notes for {cando} >> specifically call "the negation of this" as being motion without change in >> location.) >> ----- >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Jonathan Jones wrote: >> >>> So, before I send the list off to Robin, what's the meaning of "ipkota"? >>> "x1 hiccups"? >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 7:41 AM, Pierre Abbat wrote: >>> >>>> On Wednesday 02 November 2011 06:28:53 Arnt Richard Johansen wrote: >>>> > On Wed, Nov 02, 2011 at 06:21:31AM -0400, Pierre Abbat wrote: >>>> > > On Wednesday 02 November 2011 03:12:58 Robin Lee Powell wrote: >>>> > > > hiccup >>>> > > >>>> > > ipkota >>>> > >>>> > That is a coining of yours, right? I like it. What's the etymology? >>>> Any >>>> > suggestion for place structure? I would probably make it >>>> intransitive, with >>>> > x1 as the hiccup-er, to parallel with {senci}. >>>> >>>> I just made it up yesterday, and sometimes metathesize it to "ikpota". >>>> It's >>>> Spanish "hipo" combined with Russian "ikota". I'm guessing both are >>>> imitative; es:wikt says so, but ru:wikt has an unfilled stub. I defined >>>> it as >>>> intransitive. >>>> >>>> The Latin word is "singultus/singulto" (n/v). The Italians still use >>>> this >>>> word, "singhiozzo", but other Romance languages have innovated. French >>>> is "hoquet/hips" (n/int). >>>> >>>> Pierre >>>> -- >>>> gau do li'i co'e kei do >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "lojban" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >>> >>> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o >>> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >> >> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o >> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lojban" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --f46d043c7b9857e96f04b0f84c55 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "singultus" might also be a good fu'ivla candidate, given tha= t it's the accepted medical term.

On = 5 November 2011 01:54, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
=A0 (ta'urva'u) wa= s clearly a mistake, and Arnt meant tai'rva'u
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 --gejyspa


On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at= 10:57 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
Here's the list so far (including the on= es from other topics:
-----
Here's what Arnt and Pierre came up w= ith while I was sleeping. Arnt's are first because he replied first:
hug: xadjai, pamjai
hiccup: ipkota - fu'ivla from Spanish "hipo" and Russian &quo= t;ikota" - "x1 hiccups/is a hiccuper"
blanket: boxfo, buk= pu, ckagai
Cute: citmle
Yawn: moltenva'u, ta'irva'u, ta&#= 39;urva'u
Suck: sakcpu
ceiling: drudi, tolyloi
burp: kafke, befkafke, befkafkyg= au

And this is from the other topics that have replies:

on on= e side: mlapau
cry: c= moni
eyes=20 open: Pierre says kanri and ganlo work (referring to eyelids), Arnt says {loi kalgai cu kalri}, as to him, {lo kanla cu kalri} smacks of eye=20 surgery.
move: tolcando (Kevin: Note that the gismu list notes for {cando}=20 specifically call "the negation of this" as being motion without = change=20 in location.)
-----


On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
So, before I send the list off to Robin, what's the meaning of "ip= kota"? "x1 hiccups"?


On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 7:41 AM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.= optus.nu> wrote:
On Wednesday 02 November 2011 06:28:53 = Arnt Richard Johansen wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 02, 2011 at 06:21:31AM -0400, Pierre Abbat wrote:
> > On Wednesday 02 November 2011 03:12:58 Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > > hiccup
> >
> > ipkota
>
> That is a coining of yours, right? I like it. What's the etymology= ? Any
> suggestion for place structure? I would probably make it intransitive,= with
> x1 as the hiccup-er, to parallel with {senci}.

I just made it up yesterday, and sometimes metathesize it to "ik= pota". It's
Spanish "hipo" combined with Russian "ikota". I'm g= uessing both are
imitative; es:wikt says so, but ru:wikt has an unfilled stub. I defined it = as
intransitive.

The Latin word is "singultus/singulto" (n/v). The Italians still = use this
word, "singhiozzo", but other Romance languages have innovated. F= rench
is "hoquet/hips" (n/int).

Pierre
--
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.i.e'ucai ko= cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
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--
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