Received: from mail-iy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.210.189]:50069) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RMeuo-0005Gx-QR; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 05:00:13 -0700 Received: by iage36 with SMTP id e36sf5544955iag.16 for ; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 04:59:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:mime-version:user-agent:sender:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=Xl/KrJ9b738U4LzMIjxzsJX8a3ZnbvCkXYxODiDtOOM=; b=m8BNQS0KQH6oeTkNPangLtDUplEsUcHZ0jHsqOp5mvaBh9wOp7c2Lay5qkUALLVJZE 0p3VLITLDWTN43kMUCrGGX9mckdkp1Hx8oknT7mR0kqFgiVhB+nhbrOsvqEAmI6R49Y4 lxsQsNjvMSnt6KH6iPgPPZbsCgu7zJyjO4nTM= Received: by 10.50.149.193 with SMTP id uc1mr2031829igb.17.1320494394399; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 04:59:54 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.65.66 with SMTP id h2ls8830186ibi.2.gmail; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 04:59:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.133.135 with SMTP id h7mr27418798ict.4.1320494392545; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 04:59:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.133.135 with SMTP id h7mr27418796ict.4.1320494392528; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 04:59:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stodi.digitalkingdom.org (mail.digitalkingdom.org. [173.13.139.236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l3si8723089pbd.0.2011.11.05.04.59.52 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 05 Nov 2011 04:59:52 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of nobody@stodi.digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.236; Received: from nobody by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RMeuc-0005Gq-Tz for lojban@googlegroups.com; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 04:59:51 -0700 Received: from rlpowell by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RMeuc-0005Gj-EJ for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 04:59:50 -0700 Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 04:59:50 -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] baby words, but general relevance: dai-like cmavo Message-ID: <20111105115950.GJ8607@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of nobody@stodi.digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=nobody@stodi.digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / OK, so there's {dai}. {.ui dai} means "you are happy, and I am also happy along with you". What I routinely find myself wanting to say to the babies is things like {.o'u [you should be feeling this]}. Something like a UI equivalent of {ko surla}, or {ko gleki}, or whatever. Obviously, I can just *say* {ko surla}, but I find myself, in the flow of Lojban, really *wanting* to use the UI cmavo for this purpose. Similarily, I also want {.oi [I see that you are feeling this; I'm not myself, but I observe it in you]}. Which, again, {za'a do dunku}, but when I'm in the flow speaking Lojban, I want a UI for it. I don't know why I have these urges, but I thought I'd throw them out in case other people feel similarily and maybe think it's worth playing with a couple of experimental cmavo for it. As usual, I probably won't be following the thread. -Robin -- http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" is "na nei". My personal page: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.