Received: from mail-gy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]:57703) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RMjLl-0000dm-6e; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 09:44:17 -0700 Received: by gyg4 with SMTP id 4sf3694065gyg.16 for ; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 09:44:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=9LjqXQZ4rIYfDm2FdYTYBOYIMmo+aoloJfWMO2I7Qow=; b=NIhS5XSGeCEKQlfLwwx2SGQomTj0lz77zem7jqIMqBeEt6SKRrnSFGblzfQHTqJ2r4 unuxOw4chjYSLivr1YJe6Z1pcEXzywVMe9PWWvOj7oJRptKdRl7VCvwmDA2upgWXgFtZ 35Zh2yNqSTVmRuE2SDsXgq+p7eCKX7HfCdCkI= Received: by 10.236.200.161 with SMTP id z21mr1161239yhn.2.1320511440269; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 09:44:00 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.150.16.21 with SMTP id 21ls6845489ybp.6.gmail; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 09:43:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.46.130 with SMTP id r2mr28255655yhb.7.1320511438128; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 09:43:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.46.130 with SMTP id r2mr28255650yhb.7.1320511438112; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 09:43:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gx0-f169.google.com (mail-gx0-f169.google.com [209.85.161.169]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y7si125211yha.4.2011.11.05.09.43.58 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 05 Nov 2011 09:43:58 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.169 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.161.169; Received: by mail-gx0-f169.google.com with SMTP id h4so4174794ggn.0 for ; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 09:43:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.136.1 with SMTP id v1mr26015808yhi.28.1320511437977; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 09:43:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.103.5 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 09:43:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.103.5 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 09:43:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20111105115950.GJ8607@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> References: <20111105115950.GJ8607@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 12:43:57 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] baby words, but general relevance: dai-like cmavo From: Luke Bergen To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.169 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=485b397dcfd12eb97104b0ff879f X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --485b397dcfd12eb97104b0ff879f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 This has been discussed at length in the past resulting in "da'oi" which rlp may find useful On Nov 5, 2011 7:59 AM, "Robin Lee Powell" wrote: > > OK, so there's {dai}. {.ui dai} means "you are happy, and I am also > happy along with you". > > What I routinely find myself wanting to say to the babies is things > like {.o'u [you should be feeling this]}. Something like a UI > equivalent of {ko surla}, or {ko gleki}, or whatever. > > Obviously, I can just *say* {ko surla}, but I find myself, in the > flow of Lojban, really *wanting* to use the UI cmavo for this > purpose. > > Similarily, I also want {.oi [I see that you are feeling this; I'm > not myself, but I observe it in you]}. Which, again, {za'a do > dunku}, but when I'm in the flow speaking Lojban, I want a UI for > it. > > I don't know why I have these urges, but I thought I'd throw them > out in case other people feel similarily and maybe think it's worth > playing with a couple of experimental cmavo for it. As usual, I > probably won't be following the thread. > > -Robin > > -- > http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. > Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot > is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" > is "na nei". 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This has been discussed at length in the past resulting in "da'= oi" which rlp may find useful

On Nov 5, 2011 7:59 AM, "Robin Lee Powell&q= uot; <rlpowell@digitalkin= gdom.org> wrote:

OK, so there's {dai}. =A0{.ui dai} means "you are happy, and I am = also
happy along with you".

What I routinely find myself wanting to say to the babies is things
like {.o'u [you should be feeling this]}. =A0Something like a UI
equivalent of {ko surla}, or {ko gleki}, or whatever.

Obviously, I can just *say* {ko surla}, but I find myself, in the
flow of Lojban, really *wanting* to use the UI cmavo for this
purpose.

Similarily, I also want {.oi [I see that you are feeling this; I'm
not myself, but I observe it in you]}. =A0Which, again, {za'a do
dunku}, but when I'm in the flow speaking Lojban, I want a UI for
it.

I don't know why I have these urges, but I thought I'd throw them out in case other people feel similarily and maybe think it's worth
playing with a couple of experimental cmavo for it. =A0As usual, I
probably won't be following the thread.

-Robin

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Lojban (http://www.loj= ban.org/): The language in which "this parrot
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is "na nei". =A0 My personal page: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/
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