Received: from mail-bw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.214.61]:50217) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RMlpn-00023C-ME; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 12:23:26 -0700 Received: by bkat2 with SMTP id t2sf3455689bka.16 for ; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 12:23:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=Arfa9UiTZGFH5GJC+xUUfXXEaoF4aYPbLCEcBTmePw4=; b=rPgsMNVL421WPtkpVidO/JcwQAvM6cnKWWQuk46iNdSQb0hlt9qCbqSI5QaRusghP2 E506GZp1PJhsoA54YShngCg0Xp9qX017P8qjJh7EPdQHM15qdD2Xg4J2sun1kZq1AgFu Lyd5F3w8Ci5Yb7GVAxzZQGgErDDb1bMB8sSFw= Received: by 10.204.130.27 with SMTP id q27mr2227843bks.30.1320520989322; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 12:23:09 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.152.154 with SMTP id g26ls9533149bkw.3.gmail; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 12:23:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.0.73 with SMTP id 9mr573692bka.4.1320520987500; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 12:23:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.0.73 with SMTP id 9mr573691bka.4.1320520987483; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 12:23:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-fx0-f44.google.com (mail-fx0-f44.google.com [209.85.161.44]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i17si6918873fai.0.2011.11.05.12.23.07 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 05 Nov 2011 12:23:07 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.44 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.161.44; Received: by faas12 with SMTP id s12so3718939faa.3 for ; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 12:23:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.106.130 with SMTP id gu2mr3337542lab.37.1320520985441; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 12:23:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.19.198 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 12:23:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4EB58359.8040708@gmail.com> References: <20111029001437.GA5535@gonzales> <4EAC2461.4040307@gmail.com> <20111029172822.GC9385@gonzales> <4EAC5B24.4000604@gmail.com> <20111103234955.GA3758@gonzales> <4EB43035.6040407@gmail.com> <20111104233756.GB24058@gonzales> <4EB4A123.7030305@gmail.com> <20111105061247.GE24058@gonzales> <4EB526B7.7070008@gmail.com> <20111105172216.GI24058@gonzales> <4EB58359.8040708@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 16:23:05 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] {zo'e} as close-scope existentially quantified plural variable From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.44 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 3:41 PM, And Rosta wrote: > Martin Bays, On 05/11/2011 17:22: >> >> If you think there's only one lion but you're not sure, you should just >> say so. > > Okay, but in the case under discussion, you've got something that looks like > one lion but might be several. The speaker is sure it looks like one lion > and sure that it mightn't be one. All the available diagnostics point to it > being one lion, but not enough diagnostics are available. If you were to > draw it or describe it, it would be like drawing or describing one lion. > Still, I suppose Ready-Madeism would have to just use {su'o cinfo}. That reminds me of this: http://mathworld.wolfram.com/AtLeastOne.html (Very nice book the one quoted, BTW.) mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.