Received: from mail-bw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.214.61]:52685) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RMsGM-0004Jz-1K; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 19:15:16 -0700 Received: by bkat2 with SMTP id t2sf3628187bka.16 for ; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 19:15:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=BqMkzv0RjZYKvePvfSd8FciE/gpDxOXVOiti/j6e8Vs=; b=H0+ZyR9Aeyr1xi4Cc/OY70yDXFuCj3bXLCriyMynEewSESDnpa/+82bQzNQ8dX9GPh 9lybj1mx2v1tCXCTvFiWU58GW0mTgiV4h8B20SAuwE4e0A7AhW+F6NZxYJ+AMa840xcz FpBEcmAUXgBqwLYTILnp6y35+pVVNgaD4mhBE= Received: by 10.204.144.73 with SMTP id y9mr2345508bku.0.1320545699868; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 19:14:59 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.33.136 with SMTP id h8ls9632196bkd.0.gmail; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 19:14:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.154.136 with SMTP id o8mr2468748bkw.2.1320545698260; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 19:14:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.154.136 with SMTP id o8mr2468747bkw.2.1320545698247; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 19:14:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-fx0-f50.google.com (mail-fx0-f50.google.com [209.85.161.50]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h3si7427238fao.3.2011.11.05.19.14.58 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 05 Nov 2011 19:14:58 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.50 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.161.50; Received: by mail-fx0-f50.google.com with SMTP id r15so2084879faa.23 for ; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 19:14:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.102.138 with SMTP id fo10mr3750981lab.44.1320545698098; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 19:14:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.19.198 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 19:14:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20111105233909.GB2831@gonzales> References: <20111105051200.GD24058@gonzales> <20111105151953.GG24058@gonzales> <20111105153425.GH24058@gonzales> <20111105162316.GA835@gonzales> <20111105205810.GJ24058@gonzales> <20111105233909.GB2831@gonzales> Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 23:14:57 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] {zo'e} as close-scope existentially quantified plural variable From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.50 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Martin Bays wrote: > > Is a Blobist allowed to consider quanta? Sounds like heresy to me! We're allowed to consider everything and anything. :) > But I have to ask the same question you asked me when I suggested > {dacti} for this: why couldn't that be interpreted as a *kind* of > hat-quantum? And if it can, isn't a beret-quantum a kind of hat-quantum? It can. With "kantu" we just preclude the possibility that we are considering the beret, the bowler hat, the baseball cap and so on as the individuals, and that may be all we need to avoid confusion. mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.