Received: from mail-iy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.210.189]:49130) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RMvPA-0005Bu-9X; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 22:36:39 -0700 Received: by iage36 with SMTP id e36sf7213384iag.16 for ; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 22:36:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :sender:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding; bh=EeJien9x2fiyfg0EY5LrlKftfhRHk7NRS+utGxXrypk=; b=T4EacBAP15XddryifFZY5+OaOgTlDUFS1Pcj2YQSiw2NeffX+i23zgK9J60bIlOWm6 VaqfJsy8EsQNbVgQLF9UA2ndjYFjJRMVyP2wRLXBk008fwR0rTpVzjttFIx6Sg0+19e7 Gg47x/sjNHLPqeH39FrAdLPPlaKs4WeSzDEXc= Received: by 10.50.11.202 with SMTP id s10mr2491056igb.10.1320557779457; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 22:36:19 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.65.66 with SMTP id h2ls10746810ibi.2.gmail; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 22:36:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.43.48.202 with SMTP id ux10mr32821090icb.6.1320557778338; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 22:36:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.43.48.202 with SMTP id ux10mr32821089icb.6.1320557778326; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 22:36:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stodi.digitalkingdom.org (mail.digitalkingdom.org. [173.13.139.236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l5si11390911pbe.2.2011.11.05.22.36.18 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 05 Nov 2011 22:36:18 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rlpowell@stodi.digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.236; Received: from rlpowell by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RMvOz-0005Br-4u for lojban@googlegroups.com; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 22:36:17 -0700 Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 22:36:17 -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] babies: "you might as well sleep" Message-ID: <20111106053616.GR8607@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@googlegroups.com References: <20111104115329.GG30208@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20111105124409.GP8607@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rlpowell@stodi.digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rlpowell@stodi.digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Sat, Nov 05, 2011 at 11:05:58AM -0300, Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: > On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Robin Lee Powell > wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 10:37:29AM -0300, Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: > >> > >> "might as well" means "have no reason not to", so you could say > >> ".ei no da fanta lo nu do sipna". > > > > What's the {.ei} there for? >=20 > Just to make it a little less presumptuous: "there ought to be > nothing preventing you from sleeping" instead of a plain "nothing > prevents you from sleeping". You could leave it out too. Huh. That's not what I think {.ei} means at all. I read that as "I, the speaker, am feeling obligated/constrained about something having to do with nothing preventing you from sleeping". I don't get your use there at all. -Robin --=20 http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" is "na nei". My personal page: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/ --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.