Received: from mail-bw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.214.61]:42334) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RN37H-00087V-Pf; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 05:50:39 -0800 Received: by bkat2 with SMTP id t2sf3927924bka.16 for ; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 05:50:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=0sf+cJc48VTnWQaK2JsdjKpNK+rGOWq7noaHIab/MYk=; b=buTw0AxNm+6Oq86g4bV05/HerA3R2t9CloO8VI+AVDtYYSq5mH5gAD/XgCKLrvRtJk sKUy6WSJjfXpTsNdFMFpaa3wVCgrbys22Fowvy5Xzip25Rjm0eg1jq2MuimeslQK4mYW G/rkfCh2HUp7DMLnPlwJihpBFJ/N8IIKTps/A= Received: by 10.204.39.196 with SMTP id h4mr1828619bke.11.1320587421542; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 05:50:21 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.33.136 with SMTP id h8ls10292243bkd.0.gmail; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 05:50:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.151.81 with SMTP id b17mr2591829bkw.3.1320587420119; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 05:50:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.151.81 with SMTP id b17mr2591827bkw.3.1320587420092; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 05:50:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-fx0-f44.google.com (mail-fx0-f44.google.com [209.85.161.44]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z20si2793975faf.1.2011.11.06.05.50.20 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 06 Nov 2011 05:50:20 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.44 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.161.44; Received: by mail-fx0-f44.google.com with SMTP id s12so4241734faa.3 for ; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 05:50:20 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.148.165 with SMTP id tt5mr4461756lab.23.1320587419951; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 05:50:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.152.19.198 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Nov 2011 05:50:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20111106053616.GR8607@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> References: <20111104115329.GG30208@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20111105124409.GP8607@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20111106053616.GR8607@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 10:50:19 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] babies: "you might as well sleep" From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.44 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 2:36 AM, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > Huh. =A0That's not what I think {.ei} means at all. =A0I read that as > "I, the speaker, am feeling obligated/constrained about something > having to do with nothing preventing you from sleeping". =A0I don't > get your use there at all. What do you use for my sense "I feel it ought to be the case that ..."? Notice that my sense covers yours, all I need is to have "mi" as the agent of whatever I feel ought to be the case. mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.