Received: from mail-bw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.214.61]:58140) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RN3YD-0000gF-Mb; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 06:18:30 -0800 Received: by bkat2 with SMTP id t2sf3937526bka.16 for ; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 06:18:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=XwDEAWPtEyS95wd8zK/iEJ5cuwhl9PDOCDKCnPPBsAg=; b=NKRMlC4EB3fKImJMsOYTRTaXyedZ0GvbFy0X41zIUuTuG4ZDZGSZqESPmbzKs0F0/k eJ9x7DFzmK/4ppPgtRqU/mZJT/k6dxpWPmiaT5NAYMtVTFZr2jVUMH91NDX5xg2PCxAL UZyYSMSoM3wwnMvXiUDR8MzqhTAWnkEFupPsQ= Received: by 10.204.41.201 with SMTP id p9mr1800530bke.18.1320589091478; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 06:18:11 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.33.136 with SMTP id h8ls10337786bkd.0.gmail; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 06:18:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.140.144 with SMTP id i16mr2686548bku.0.1320589090508; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 06:18:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.140.144 with SMTP id i16mr2686547bku.0.1320589090482; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 06:18:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-fx0-f43.google.com (mail-fx0-f43.google.com [209.85.161.43]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d3si8332782fad.2.2011.11.06.06.18.10 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 06 Nov 2011 06:18:10 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.43 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.161.43; Received: by mail-fx0-f43.google.com with SMTP id t9so7570213faa.16 for ; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 06:18:10 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.144.202 with SMTP id so10mr4563816lab.9.1320589090296; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 06:18:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.152.19.198 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Nov 2011 06:18:10 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <589C646F-4710-497E-9D18-832E9F2DF8F2@switchb.org> References: <20111106054303.GT8607@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <201111060536.48008.phma@phma.optus.nu> <589C646F-4710-497E-9D18-832E9F2DF8F2@switchb.org> Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 11:18:10 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] baby words: "help" From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.43 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Kevin Reid wrote: > > For language acquisition, shouldn't we prefer sentences with "simple words" over ones with lujvo, when the lujvo are there for a "variant" meaning rather than one that's fundamentally not a gismu? If you want the acquirer to acquire the full morphology, you need to use a good sample of lujvo, fu'ivla and cmevla too. I understand infants acquire the phonological rules of a language before they acquire any significant vocabulary, so hearing full blown "grown up" speech is important for them too. mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.