Received: from mail-gy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]:59967) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RN5Kj-0002Z5-VU; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 08:12:41 -0800 Received: by gyg4 with SMTP id 4sf4986507gyg.16 for ; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 08:12:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:message-id:date:from:user-agent :mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=G8foRs0vgmsAJiknpbKH9gcrkN19E+olrJIi/nA3DDs=; b=henjsxbN4jfEB5Hu+gYezwz1p6ZrtClGSuZjByOXEx7hr38Bca07bS1z9FOIX5z0sz 7+ZQXpY3e+sTTTLgx5iG2KVT8QP9yC7yYN8uNcisqWsUmm+eVU5f4ZOKvqSCDI690pRv yULUJTOj8cD0GuFfjXJrHExwjMq3zIzNGuaEE= Received: by 10.236.144.132 with SMTP id n4mr4814560yhj.14.1320595815911; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 08:10:15 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.101.206.2 with SMTP id i2ls10466710anq.1.gmail; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 08:10:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.101.21.5 with SMTP id y5mr5821590ani.14.1320595814517; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 08:10:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.101.21.5 with SMTP id y5mr5821589ani.14.1320595814501; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 08:10:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s16si9560194ane.3.2011.11.06.08.10.14 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 06 Nov 2011 08:10:14 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of celestialcognition@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.182 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.160.182; Received: by mail-gy0-f182.google.com with SMTP id 5so4546935gyd.13 for ; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 08:10:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.173.202 with SMTP id v50mr26448272yhl.102.1320595814422; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 08:10:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.1.103] (76-76-236-67.lisco.net. [76.76.236.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n5sm24175947yhk.1.2011.11.06.08.10.13 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 06 Nov 2011 08:10:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EB6B161.60002@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:10:09 -0600 From: vitci'i User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110921 Thunderbird/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] babies: "you might as well sleep" References: <20111104115329.GG30208@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20111105124409.GP8607@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20111106053616.GR8607@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> In-Reply-To: <20111106053616.GR8607@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> X-Original-Sender: celestialcognition@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of celestialcognition@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.182 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=celestialcognition@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On 11/06/2011 12:36 AM, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > On Sat, Nov 05, 2011 at 11:05:58AM -0300, Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: >> On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Robin Lee Powell >> wrote: >>> On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 10:37:29AM -0300, Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: >>>> >>>> "might as well" means "have no reason not to", so you could say >>>> ".ei no da fanta lo nu do sipna". >>> >>> What's the {.ei} there for? >> >> Just to make it a little less presumptuous: "there ought to be >> nothing preventing you from sleeping" instead of a plain "nothing >> prevents you from sleeping". You could leave it out too. >=20 > Huh. That's not what I think {.ei} means at all. I read that as > "I, the speaker, am feeling obligated/constrained about something > having to do with nothing preventing you from sleeping". I don't > get your use there at all. >=20 > -Robin >=20 Isn't this what {.e'u} is for? --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.