Received: from mail-qy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]:35661) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RN6MK-0002wK-LI; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 09:18:24 -0800 Received: by qyk29 with SMTP id 29sf4521437qyk.16 for ; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 09:18:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=XbRXWcc+R5upBzM1thgmhpQNbBLaiMnVYfq2DktHsik=; b=4hJrUVyBI1pnZQ2hFU0EQ7+nTFtxBCKrRDz02q4u9hJh1hkoNpQHc3JGeSQPjQm8yB A0Tfz4q5C3dE8kkUagopmRaz13mhnUL5/r4TpB6Ic5VStuz72VIkiSpBvQ1yN0V6slvD okVVDkUoMqG3RW4RUu6bFfkd5ia8xqWrJlH78= Received: by 10.229.247.193 with SMTP id md1mr563030qcb.22.1320599887457; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 09:18:07 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.224.6.80 with SMTP id 16ls7104709qay.7.gmail; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 09:18:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.224.198.6 with SMTP id em6mr9081698qab.0.1320599886831; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 09:18:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.224.198.6 with SMTP id em6mr9081697qab.0.1320599886818; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 09:18:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-qw0-f52.google.com (mail-qw0-f52.google.com [209.85.216.52]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s41si7318635qcq.3.2011.11.06.09.18.06 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 06 Nov 2011 09:18:06 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of paskios@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.52 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.216.52; Received: by qaea17 with SMTP id a17so4485523qae.11 for ; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 09:18:06 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.44.9 with SMTP id a9mr6176740obm.61.1320599886611; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 09:18:06 -0800 (PST) Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.182.29.226 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Nov 2011 09:18:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20111105115516.GI8607@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20111106062935.GA21434@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 17:18:06 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: project idea (was Re: [lojban] Baby words: patience (i.e. .o'o) as a brivla) From: tijlan To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: paskios@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of paskios@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.52 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=paskios@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / 2011/11/6 Jorge Llamb=EDas : > On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 3:29 AM, Robin Lee Powell > wrote: >> >> In general, the lack of brivla equivalent of all UI, and UI >> equivalent of all emotional gismu, is pretty awful and I'd really >> love to see someone take up fixing that as a project. > > Since every cmavo has a Lojban definition in jbovlaste, someone > already did... :) > > Of course that doesn't mean many of the definitions can't be improved. > I had nothing for patience, but that was because I couldn't see how it > could be the opposite of anger (if it is, then "tolfengu" will do) so > I went with "panpi". But the English definition of "o'o" has > "de'acni". I remember having used "de'acre" some time. How about something with "renvi"? Survivals generally appear to mean that the upshot is a more secure state than the transitional ones. renvi2 would seem to be a process that is challenging to the experiencer and that leads to a relatively more desirable condition, which would sound appropriate for Robin's sense of "willing to wait if it will result in a better outcome", perhaps in conjunction with "cinmo". mu'o --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.