Received: from mail-bw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.214.61]:54767) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RN7J2-0003JZ-Pj; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:19:03 -0800 Received: by bkat2 with SMTP id t2sf4019067bka.16 for ; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:18:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=2SZ/J607YXrqtoS7yZ4HDqF6iXG83sLB40YDOnMb/1I=; b=a1UeCoED7yGXC749/TTrIFm/jRSF/Jrqj1jTA4TGoQ2c9TiS+OyvfJrLsI4xWi6NaH GM0Sb9zfmGQDf2EoUrjW7BiFlmmefKupcT767iJ8orYjz5SSbbkiZ8idUpzOqniS85VB 6ig82dxweHtjzjhMJKrT/Pp/RHEJQSsiTT65g= Received: by 10.204.150.197 with SMTP id z5mr916401bkv.25.1320603526284; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:18:46 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.29.7 with SMTP id o7ls2055914bkc.2.gmail; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:18:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.148.84 with SMTP id o20mr2764488bkv.6.1320603524460; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:18:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.148.84 with SMTP id o20mr2764486bkv.6.1320603524423; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:18:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-fx0-f42.google.com (mail-fx0-f42.google.com [209.85.161.42]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i17si8612063fai.0.2011.11.06.10.18.44 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:18:44 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.42 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.161.42; Received: by faan2 with SMTP id n2so1153285faa.29 for ; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:18:44 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.104.6 with SMTP id ga6mr4891676lab.45.1320603524263; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:18:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.152.1.7 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Nov 2011 10:18:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201111060816.52828.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <20111106130432.GK21434@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <201111060816.52828.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 11:18:44 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Icky lujvo From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0407122df3ede304b114f734 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --f46d0407122df3ede304b114f734 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I can't recall any specific occurrences, but I have many times preferred the second rated lujvo to the first rated one, and each time it was because I liked the vowel ending leading rafsi version better than the consonant ending leading rafsi that got the highest score. Perhaps a change to the algorithm should be made to give preference to vowel ending rafsi? On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 6:16 AM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Sunday 06 November 2011 08:04:32 Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > This doesn't happen very often, but I pretty strongly disagree with > > the lujvo scoring here: > > > > -------------------- > > Score Lujvo > > -------------------- > > 5878 citmle > > 6367 ci'omle > > > > "citmle" is really quite unpleasent for me to say. Is it just me? > > I'm gonna want to say that a lot to/around the babies. :P > > You're not alone. Anothe pair is refmri/ke'umri, with the exact same > scores. I > prefer ke'umri. > > Pierre > -- > The Black Garden on the Mountain is not on the Black Mountain. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --f46d0407122df3ede304b114f734 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I can't recall any specific occurrences, but I have many times preferre= d the second rated lujvo to the first rated one, and each time it was becau= se I liked the vowel ending leading rafsi version better than the consonant= ending leading rafsi that got the highest score.

Perhaps a change to the algorithm should be made to give preference to = vowel ending rafsi?

On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 a= t 6:16 AM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
On Sunday 06 November 201= 1 08:04:32 Robin Lee Powell wrote:
> This doesn't happen very often, but I pretty strongly disagree wit= h
> the lujvo scoring here:
>
> --------------------
> =A0Score =A0Lujvo
> --------------------
> =A0 5878 citmle
> =A0 6367 ci'omle
>
> "citmle" is really quite unpleasent for me to say. =A0Is it = just me?
> I'm gonna want to say that a lot to/around the babies. =A0:P

You're not alone. Anothe pair is refmri/ke'umri, with the exa= ct same scores. I
prefer ke'umri.

Pierre
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