Received: from mail-bw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.214.61]:34440) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RN7KS-0003Kh-KW; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:20:25 -0800 Received: by bkat2 with SMTP id t2sf4019276bka.16 for ; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:20:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=5aeT/IuHZnDCmTLrsLWq7igOrRQWINrSFMVm/iaZaHY=; b=IWJqcedCwYaOuK2xLvPG6n93E8Yrv6xh/5Bc8wu+tGCxwNI+LIMfvX02ZVpMqchD/l T6Qsz1C07zOk0K9B60mx09lGgSEsUH8JW5Zftt8HaMshE9R2S+2WbltT5hRBHQlJZg1w XFhR/N1k2npFE/qxKqOLlS2VbOzyu4D9zhK6I= Received: by 10.204.147.10 with SMTP id j10mr1807259bkv.5.1320603614552; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:20:14 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.205.80.78 with SMTP id zt14ls13858549bkb.1.gmail; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:20:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.140.198 with SMTP id j6mr2717612bku.8.1320603613522; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:20:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.140.198 with SMTP id j6mr2717611bku.8.1320603613508; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:20:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-fx0-f45.google.com (mail-fx0-f45.google.com [209.85.161.45]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i17si8613373fai.0.2011.11.06.10.20.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:20:13 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.45 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.161.45; Received: by mail-fx0-f45.google.com with SMTP id p15so5401419faa.4 for ; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:20:13 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.112.10 with SMTP id im10mr4888212lab.2.1320603613289; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:20:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.152.19.198 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Nov 2011 10:20:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4EB6B161.60002@gmail.com> References: <20111104115329.GG30208@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20111105124409.GP8607@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20111106053616.GR8607@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <4EB6B161.60002@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 15:20:13 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] babies: "you might as well sleep" From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.45 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 1:10 PM, vitci'i wrote: > > Isn't this what {.e'u} is for? It's close, at least in this case. He could just say "e'u do sipna". I think "e'u" shows positive endorsment on the part of the speaker, whereas "might as well" just shows lack of opposition. But more importantly, "might as well" can be used for other than second person agents: I might as well do this, they might as well do that, so it's not just for direct suggestions. It shows an attitude towards some event that may not necessarily be in the hands of the listener. mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.