Received: from mail-gx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]:36096) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RN7Mk-0003ML-0T; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:22:52 -0800 Received: by ggnr4 with SMTP id r4sf5698278ggn.16 for ; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:22:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=ACqHVpEonWv8gdHLoSQZwHEgXmNVbMr9p6tGm+fHjoc=; b=crghIkJIhjmgEOz4DqkIVHXro7iWsTO45tNzd8X23jN3pW42U3vjqPbUTDrLPMNOav jRt3qHKSAMMt1BXr7pX7qnaKZuozkK98hXynSACSXQiyV+n/7tdJEiwprlSKpsBLy+b/ juhsKCJYe/puPIiwRMOGX9qJiRyJd6d9/zyZs= Received: by 10.236.73.134 with SMTP id v6mr4915730yhd.12.1320603757088; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:22:37 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.101.182.17 with SMTP id j17ls10525442anp.6.gmail; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:22:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.101.63.18 with SMTP id q18mr3780705ank.8.1320603755739; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:22:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.101.63.18 with SMTP id q18mr3780703ank.8.1320603755725; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:22:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yw0-f47.google.com (mail-yw0-f47.google.com [209.85.213.47]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s34si1539621yba.2.2011.11.06.10.22.35 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:22:35 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of paskios@gmail.com designates 209.85.213.47 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.213.47; Received: by mail-yw0-f47.google.com with SMTP id 9so5298572ywf.34 for ; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:22:35 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.202.68 with SMTP id kg4mr6350373obc.21.1320603755609; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:22:35 -0800 (PST) Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.182.29.226 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Nov 2011 10:22:35 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20111106151024.GA3071@gonzales> References: <20111105061247.GE24058@gonzales> <4EB526B7.7070008@gmail.com> <20111105172216.GI24058@gonzales> <20111105201536.GB835@gonzales> <20111105233402.GA2831@gonzales> <20111106033146.GC2831@gonzales> <1320585372.5586.YahooMailRC@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20111106151024.GA3071@gonzales> Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 18:22:35 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] {zo'e} as close-scope existentially quantified plural variable From: tijlan To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: paskios@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of paskios@gmail.com designates 209.85.213.47 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=paskios@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On 6 November 2011 15:10, Martin Bays wrote: > e.g. {su'o ctuca cu tavla ro le tadni}, uttered in a context in which we > might utter "A professor talked to all the students", can be taken two > ways. It could be the EA statement that there was a single (mundane) > professor who talked to all the students. But it could be the EA > statement that there was a single *kind* of professor who talked to all > the students. The latter would hold under e.g. the AE assumption that > each student was talked to by some logic professor. Are you saying that "a single professor" and "a professor of a single kind" are mutually exclusive? mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.