Received: from mail-qw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.216.61]:63495) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RN9AD-00045L-Bl; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 12:18:04 -0800 Received: by qan41 with SMTP id 41sf4656756qan.16 for ; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 12:17:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=D8dFwxB4mH7AHpBKbiFBCH7BykvLTd+jd43YbQS/3MQ=; b=jgOBB7T9pp/OmZZ2BkWAgPWZCiJVR/Tas7vhSKvz7yKI66eKi0OzWGBflbuyYfNzny vQoSJQMy4FqEZOUTm6TWZl/DW2EOl6aaLyaySGQQWi06jOHvRn68E8XxA39ebY4xV0Kx 3mMzbSi8BqGjv+vzvr9DCJ9y+u/A+2/Ep87/0= Received: by 10.224.218.133 with SMTP id hq5mr4381748qab.14.1320610668023; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 12:17:48 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.224.209.134 with SMTP id gg6ls7745825qab.2.gmail; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 12:17:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.224.192.10 with SMTP id do10mr9149123qab.6.1320610667380; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 12:17:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.224.192.10 with SMTP id do10mr9149122qab.6.1320610667369; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 12:17:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com. [75.180.132.121]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id j29si7506177qcs.2.2011.11.06.12.17.46; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 12:17:47 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.121 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.121; X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=a5qyBDuF c=1 sm=0 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:17 a=6ti_TD8eFm8A:10 a=v-e_UCCTQVEA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=xqWC_Br6kY4A:10 a=qoINl0KdBhcLAtszVB0A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 75.176.118.168 Received: from [75.176.118.168] ([75.176.118.168:41209] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 51/20-15611-A6BE6BE4; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 20:17:46 +0000 Received: from ip6-localhost (ip6-localhost [IPv6:::1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ABA42275C for ; Sun, 6 Nov 2011 15:17:46 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Icky lujvo Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 16:17:43 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <20111106130432.GK21434@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <4EB6D703.3050303@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4EB6D703.3050303@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201111061517.44428.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.121 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Sunday 06 November 2011 13:50:43 vitci'i wrote: > I suspect it's more precisely the presence of three consecutive consonants. where the first is a stop or fricative and the second is "m" (the other syllabic consonants can't begin a rafsi). But that doesn't explain why I prefer "tolcliva" to "tolyli'a". There is a word which has that form, except that the second consonant is not "m" but another syllabic consonant: "visnda". Should it be changed to "vi'unda"? Pierre -- .i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do .ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga .icu'u la ma'atman. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.