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[87.194.76.177]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fr4sm25120135wbb.0.2011.11.06.12.23.58 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 06 Nov 2011 12:23:59 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EB6ECDD.1020202@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2011 20:23:57 +0000 From: And Rosta User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110920 Thunderbird/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] {zo'e} as close-scope existentially quantified plural variable References: <20111105172216.GI24058@gonzales> <20111105201536.GB835@gonzales> <20111105233402.GA2831@gonzales> <20111106033146.GC2831@gonzales> <1320585372.5586.YahooMailRC@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20111106151024.GA3071@gonzales> <1320600390.91293.YahooMailRC@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20111106190215.GA27091@gonzales> In-Reply-To: <20111106190215.GA27091@gonzales> X-Original-Sender: and.rosta@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of and.rosta@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.44 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=and.rosta@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Martin Bays, On 06/11/2011 19:02: > * Sunday, 2011-11-06 at 09:26 -0800 - John E Clifford: > >> The fact that something can screw up in English seem poor evidence that = the >> "corresponding" thing screws up in Lojban. > >> So I am uncionvinced. > > What are you unconvinced by? That this "screw up" occurs in xorxes and > and's understanding of lojban? Or that their understanding is correct > (whatever that means)? Regarding understanding of Lojban, I think pretty much all jboskepre unders= tand that 99% of what jboskepre discuss is currently undefined for Lojban, = not necessarily because it is so arcane but more because, at least until Ro= bin tried to change this last year or thereabouts, there was no mechanism f= or completing the official specification of Lojban. However, I gather that = xorlo did become official. It seems odd that anybody would be unconvinced t= hat xorlo was Blobularist, at least in intention, though perhaps somebody m= ight want to try to argue that xorlo needn't be Blobularist. So the focus o= f the discussion has been on the putative problems of Blobularism and there= fore of xorlo. --And. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. 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