Received: from mail-vx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.220.189]:60844) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RNAXf-0004bB-1Q; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 13:46:16 -0800 Received: by vcbfo11 with SMTP id fo11sf2410737vcb.16 for ; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 13:46:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:date:user-agent:x-http-useragent :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=EvWKwQB5DXj/GNV5rZaTcuNY4UI3msTulGhDl5Y7LgQ=; b=Elk07kbDTLSTsviOg9lUSZq0y45lsC4KskBXLQcEdaNe2ZHA0HZuGJLGRyy2jJslFB JxDWUsjqla4h+Np2EIvxpL3WwD5zf5jC1wv8zpKGWTYTnYW7DQdr+J4sotEYhkxWdTkQ DZ6bQiXU+KvlKBBTORLXVMPA4LBeBWqLDShgQ= Received: by 10.52.27.240 with SMTP id w16mr4334064vdg.20.1320615965023; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 13:46:05 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.7.146 with SMTP id d18ls6356020vcd.4.gmail; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 13:46:04 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.73.130 with SMTP id l2mr3603154vdv.14.1320615964482; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 13:46:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by gk10g2000vbb.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Sun, 6 Nov 2011 13:46:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 13:46:04 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; sv-SE; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101206 Ubuntu/10.10 (maverick) Firefox/3.6.13,gzip(gfe) Message-ID: Subject: [lojban] gender From: jongausib To: lojban X-Original-Sender: so.cool.ogi@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: ls.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of so.cool.ogi@gmail.com designates internal as permitted sender) smtp.mail=so.cool.ogi@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / I wonder if there's a word for sex/gender in lojban? Could you say something like "ma terganti do" and the answer is nanmu or fetsi (or something in between) to describe the biological sex of someone (usually defined by chromosomes, hormones, the presence of ovary, the shape of external genitalia etc). The sociological defined gender may be something else, but I think {tercinse} is useful for most situations since gender is what you're doing rather than what you are, according to for example Judith Butler. So tercinse could probably include if you identify yourself as, are attracted to and/or have had some sexual experience with other males and/or females, and how feminine/masculine you are according to some standard. Does this makes sense? By the way, is there any word for twins in lojban? /jongausib -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.