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You might find use for {zo'ei}: http://vlasisku.lojban.org/zo%27ei

On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 3:37 PM, djandus <jandew@gmail.com> wrote:

> That was what I had tried before {da pe do fenki}, but I thought that it
> might be clearer the other way... Tell me if I'm thinking through any of
> the following wrong.
>
> I've been thinking of {tu'a do} as "There's a specific abstraction
> involving you that I have in mind, but it's really not worth  the effort =
to
> express it." So, I would translate {tu'a do fenki} as
> "some-abstraction-involving you is-crazy"
>
> On the other hand . . .
>
> I've been thinking of {da pe do} as "There is something that is associate=
d
> with you, and it's not necessarily like ownership." So then, if the x=E2=
=82=81
> place of {fenki} is for actions/events, then it {da pe do} automatically
> does what {tu'a do} does (says there's an abstraction involving you) as
> well as saying the relationship is a loose association not necessarily li=
ke
> ownership. (as oppose to the space of any possible abstraction, which
> usually are nothing like possession) So I figured you can get more quickl=
y
> to the sorts of things I need to say, like "Your thoughts/actions are
> crazy." which feels more like a loose possessive...
>
> mu'o mi'e djos
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You might find use for {zo&#39;ei}: <a href=3D"http://vlasisku.lojban.org/z=
o%27ei">http://vlasisku.lojban.org/zo%27ei</a><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_q=
uote">On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 3:37 PM, djandus <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:jandew@gmail.com">jandew@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">That was what I had tried before {da pe do =
fenki}, but I thought that it might be clearer the other way... Tell me if =
I&#39;m thinking through any of the following wrong.<div>
<br></div><div>I&#39;ve been thinking of {tu&#39;a do} as &quot;There&#39;s=
 a specific abstraction involving you that I have in mind, but it&#39;s rea=
lly not worth =C2=A0the effort to express it.&quot; So, I would translate {=
tu&#39;a do fenki} as &quot;some-abstraction-involving you is-crazy&quot;</=
div>
<div><br></div><div>On the other hand . . .</div><div><br></div><div>I&#39;=
ve been thinking of {da pe do} as &quot;There is something that is associat=
ed with you, and it&#39;s not necessarily like ownership.&quot; So then, if=
 the x=E2=82=81 place of {fenki} is for actions/events, then it {da pe do} =
automatically does what {tu&#39;a do} does (says there&#39;s an abstraction=
 involving you) as well as saying the relationship is a loose association n=
ot necessarily like ownership. (as oppose to the space of any possible abst=
raction, which usually are nothing like possession) So I figured you can ge=
t more quickly to the sorts of things I need to say, like &quot;Your though=
ts/actions are crazy.&quot; which feels more like a loose possessive...</di=
v>
<div class=3D"im"><div><br></div><div>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e djos</div>

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</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>mu&#39;o mi=
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