Received: from mail-bw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.214.61]:50991) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RNBg5-0005FC-VC; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 14:59:09 -0800 Received: by bkat2 with SMTP id t2sf4103188bka.16 for ; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 14:58:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=07XcByrUHo0komltbF6IvIyVQSfQvNs2GJggduvxGYI=; b=mk/iDXIO+nDL2gtwCdZqA9yie2rI+U9ZsByxfdvqBLpcAz9p67nuUlkCNxEixSVcAb 11Sy+ojx2OoArcBcDehrma+8sUJSonv8xTCRZiKT5IhvHs6A/EAluEFJMXgHdFJzaUch LHQ8RN6ykqSp2JC6WkGGGV1pYg3eEqh/GIoYM= Received: by 10.204.143.24 with SMTP id s24mr1820163bku.35.1320620331678; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 14:58:51 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.29.7 with SMTP id o7ls2278487bkc.2.gmail; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 14:58:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.184.2 with SMTP id ci2mr2803521bkb.7.1320620330469; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 14:58:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.184.2 with SMTP id ci2mr2803520bkb.7.1320620330449; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 14:58:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-fx0-f53.google.com (mail-fx0-f53.google.com [209.85.161.53]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i17si8947358fai.0.2011.11.06.14.58.50 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 06 Nov 2011 14:58:50 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.53 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.161.53; Received: by mail-fx0-f53.google.com with SMTP id n15so1929335faa.40 for ; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 14:58:50 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.144.202 with SMTP id so10mr5447017lab.9.1320620330243; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 14:58:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.152.19.198 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Nov 2011 14:58:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20111106215741.GD2703@gonzales> References: <20111106215741.GD2703@gonzales> Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 19:58:50 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] self-referential goi From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.53 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Martin Bays wrote: > I thought this was cute, and it seems to be allowed by the BPFK section > definition of {goi}: > > {ko'a goi li pa lo'o ce'o ko'a ce'o ke li re lo'o ce'o ko'a zo'u pa > cimni je terkancu cu mleca lo se zilkancu be lu'i ko'a} > > It's the continuum hypothesis ;) I don't really quite know how either "lu'i" or "ce'o" are meant to work, but... Assuming ko'a is a set, wouldn't "lu'i ko'a" be a singleton, and so "lo se zilkancu be lu'i ko'a" be just one? And doesn't ko'a have only three members: 1, ko'a, {2, ko'a}? mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.