Received: from mail-vx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.220.189]:54146) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RNE7L-0006e1-II; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 17:35:26 -0800 Received: by vcbfo11 with SMTP id fo11sf2452699vcb.16 for ; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 17:35:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=B07SMwMmc0vZ27lvVEGCGUGPDyjyyACgWjPX9jZtvd0=; b=XmA+mpFAwS8ainPPCsXglesM4b1RpX7vWpGOxh7Kp9ep52l6q7sg+/KSnFZ2t0oElK rOwKrCE/QWfY4sO3yHfeZL5bq/PZ5gHGFX5quEb5i2AVTGFxGKXnkXLS5c3jjWQmPMWQ hXht7qFkKXYCkCsRT0Z5iMo64X+pWAa+zsUhQ= Received: by 10.52.73.130 with SMTP id l2mr3643282vdv.14.1320629710077; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 17:35:10 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.76.141 with SMTP id c13ls3330968vck.4.canary; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 17:35:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.52.23.70 with SMTP id k6mr24119651vdf.1.1320629709507; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 17:35:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.52.23.70 with SMTP id k6mr24119650vdf.1.1320629709500; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 17:35:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-vw0-f51.google.com (mail-vw0-f51.google.com [209.85.212.51]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c19si10226318vdd.1.2011.11.06.17.35.09 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 06 Nov 2011 17:35:09 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of craigbdaniel@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.51 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.51; Received: by vwl15 with SMTP id 15so161225vwl.38 for ; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 17:35:09 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.98.227 with SMTP id el3mr24348964vdb.8.1320629709406; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 17:35:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.52.33.41 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Nov 2011 17:35:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201111062031.29876.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <9080d508-6c45-431d-91f5-cc2cdae68ae1@q13g2000vbd.googlegroups.com> <201111062031.29876.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 20:35:09 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] skari From: Craig Daniel To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: craigbdaniel@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of craigbdaniel@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.51 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=craigbdaniel@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 8:31 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Sunday 06 November 2011 14:27:30 Craig Daniel wrote: >> I'd be inclined to coin a short fu'ivla referring to the color scheme, >> define it precisely, and then use its rafsi. For example, for giving >> all colors hex values based on HTML color codes, you could coin the >> fu'ivla ".y'ytmle" or something (that's a nonce word being used as an >> example; I don't know if there is a standard fu'ivla for HTML, and >> that one is pretty ugly), then refer to colors in your color space as >> ".y'ytmlyskari," with specific colors being things like >> ".y'ytmlyxu'e." > > I don't know of a fu'ivla for HTML, but "y'ytmle" is not a possible word. > Neither the first nor the last vowel in a brivla can be "y", because "y" in > brivla occurs only between rafsi, and a rafsi has to have at least one vowel. > Maybe "ctiemle"? Huh, I thought y was allowed in fu'ivla. In any case, that particular example is one I am not in favor of even outside of whether or not it's well-formed; I had to reach for something as an example. The general point, however, is independent of the malformed example: that one can make rafsi out of many type-4 fu'ivla, and these can then be used in processes which ordinarily produce lujvo to produce new words which are, in form, type-4 fu'ivla but are readily analyzable to anyone familiar with the underlying pieces in the manner of lujvo. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.