Received: from mail-qy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]:44599) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RNESu-0006n2-GI; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 17:57:41 -0800 Received: by qyk29 with SMTP id 29sf4689362qyk.16 for ; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 17:57:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=6CoAnn11ym6ONwZyNYVUZ2ZTS1zKiMZAnaydMKAElAI=; b=VbbEFvgwxgCMqXZlS+8CHRjM/lxIGC0haMJYtlvvELLCg6Ak53iI0cibXoBttXOMdN MAZ+LWJaPUSxs4Gb9IOjNFXT9Q/L5r/nBjj3UHcmKlCcxQqRwHQRWyODslSG2ovsh2z3 RsyCRf7mw23ZPl7k35eU8WQpbzSnKBgWrYY+c= Received: by 10.224.108.74 with SMTP id e10mr4322471qap.10.1320631047699; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 17:57:27 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.224.6.80 with SMTP id 16ls7267876qay.7.gmail; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 17:57:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.224.187.197 with SMTP id cx5mr9281915qab.1.1320631047224; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 17:57:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.224.187.197 with SMTP id cx5mr9281914qab.1.1320631047215; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 17:57:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com. [75.180.132.122]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id j6si7857707qct.1.2011.11.06.17.57.27; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 17:57:27 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.122 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.122; X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=H65ZMpki c=1 sm=0 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:17 a=6ti_TD8eFm8A:10 a=v-e_UCCTQVEA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=xqWC_Br6kY4A:10 a=0joP4pBB0Kf_1b2AfcEA:9 a=JbznttJNqsEvER2h-Q8A:7 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 75.176.118.168 Received: from [75.176.118.168] ([75.176.118.168:50165] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 07/10-13401-60B37BE4; Mon, 07 Nov 2011 01:57:27 +0000 Received: from ip6-localhost (ip6-localhost [IPv6:::1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B20B21555 for ; Sun, 6 Nov 2011 20:57:26 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] gender Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 21:57:23 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201111062057.24471.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.122 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Sunday 06 November 2011 16:46:04 jongausib wrote: > I wonder if there's a word for sex/gender in lojban? > > Could you say something like "ma terganti do" and the answer is nanmu > or fetsi (or something in between) to describe the biological sex of > someone (usually defined by chromosomes, hormones, the presence of > ovary, the shape of external genitalia etc). > > The sociological defined gender may be something else, but I think > {tercinse} is useful for most situations since gender is what you're > doing rather than what you are, according to for example Judith > Butler. So tercinse could probably include if you identify yourself > as, are attracted to and/or have had some sexual experience with other > males and/or females, and how feminine/masculine you are according to > some standard. > > Does this makes sense? Yes, but what does x2 of "gencinse" mean? > By the way, is there any word for twins in lojban? "tarbykansa" covers twins, triplets, etc. Pierre -- Don't buy a French car in Holland. It may be a citroen. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.