Received: from mail-iy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.210.189]:46590) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RNJR2-00084W-Bt; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 23:16:09 -0800 Received: by iage36 with SMTP id e36sf9585091iag.16 for ; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 23:15:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :sender:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding; bh=AULev9uSyPJHpnAPZmZvqX+aBRW/zw6BQ9tWTzNOAuQ=; b=ck8v4E4nKwv6iC46l3doumjeDti6eHpJxc/HmOt0yGmiEudPyN7fncUzhddLkg4s1y lOsgPx1s+9Hqf29j1SabnVo/YHY5q8AMFKippcJkAFHn29m9BcORVJPRmoYQzq9trGvM DqfLeiyhfHsf8wa6CUstM5Ha8abmPfttbdfCw= Received: by 10.50.149.234 with SMTP id ud10mr2933495igb.1.1320650151838; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 23:15:51 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.48.198 with SMTP id s6ls7353781ibf.1.gmail; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 23:15:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.133.135 with SMTP id h7mr39737694ict.4.1320650151128; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 23:15:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.133.135 with SMTP id h7mr39737692ict.4.1320650151116; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 23:15:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from stodi.digitalkingdom.org (mail.digitalkingdom.org. [173.13.139.236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l5si15254232pbe.2.2011.11.06.23.15.50 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 06 Nov 2011 23:15:51 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rlpowell@stodi.digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.236; Received: from rlpowell by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RNJQr-00084T-R4 for lojban@googlegroups.com; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 23:15:50 -0800 Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 23:15:49 -0800 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] baby words: eyes open Message-ID: <20111107071549.GG21492@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@googlegroups.com References: <20111102080420.GF27896@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <201111031134.25917.phma@phma.optus.nu> <20111103220612.GK27896@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rlpowell@stodi.digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rlpowell@stodi.digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Sun, Nov 06, 2011 at 04:13:49PM -0300, Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: > According to the definitions of kalri and ganlo, it is a passage > that can be kalro or ganlo, not whatever may block the passage. >=20 > So it's the se murta, not the murta, that can be kalri or ganlo. >=20 > It's the window, not the window pane, that can be kalri or ganlo. > It's the jar, not its lid, that can be kalri or ganlo. >=20 > And so it must be the eyes (more precisely the pupils), not the > eyelids, that can be kalri or ganlo. The man has a point. That does make the place structure pretty weak, though, as there's no place to put the thing doing the blocking. {lo balku'a cu ganlo se pi'o le vorme}, or something, I guess? -Robin --=20 http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" is "na nei". My personal page: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/ --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.