Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]:48481) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RNK1h-0008Kh-25; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 23:53:58 -0800 Received: by wwg7 with SMTP id 7sf9221905wwg.16 for ; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 23:53:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=0jwHPdSNGLL+alTr1DyvGxGsG7o/ZXqFsD8tOK/fBDk=; b=DtJbpdiBPUqqOeNy1a0x0Kek8h6eICAKCwQ4BIyhxkOctuNNxAopMDyTuDNyNjbneX w2Y/2v7T/JtEG+8FHzR/HikKIwMBM6y0Xq3kueNj40GPeqoRy4vKH8FEsodbQhz+GxPn LO1c7YZEU7lslT6jenCTSeyAfyU2Zhx5aXemk= Received: by 10.216.136.106 with SMTP id v84mr368103wei.84.1320652422761; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 23:53:42 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.14.100.66 with SMTP id y42ls576512eef.0.canary; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 23:53:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.14.19.195 with SMTP id n43mr1291914een.3.1320652421808; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 23:53:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.14.19.195 with SMTP id n43mr1291913een.3.1320652421769; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 23:53:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ey0-f171.google.com (mail-ey0-f171.google.com [209.85.215.171]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d10si10549838eed.3.2011.11.06.23.53.41 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 06 Nov 2011 23:53:41 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of so.cool.ogi@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.171 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.171; Received: by eyb6 with SMTP id 6so4136596eyb.2 for ; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 23:53:41 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.16.146 with SMTP id h18mr2130240eeh.201.1320652421608; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 23:53:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.14.97.77 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Nov 2011 23:53:41 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4EB7526A.2070508@gmail.com> References: <201111062057.24471.phma@phma.optus.nu> <4EB73D68.8090506@gmail.com> <201111062230.31412.phma@phma.optus.nu> <4EB7526A.2070508@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 08:53:41 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] gender From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sebastian_Fr=F6jd?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: so.cool.ogi@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of so.cool.ogi@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.171 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=so.cool.ogi@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e650b20c76361904b1205a52 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --0016e650b20c76361904b1205a52 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Well, it seems a bit far-fetched, but on a very abstract level perhaps you may experience some sort of gendered-grammatical-sexual tense between masculine and feminine (and neutral) words. O maybe you can use zilselgencinse: ? c1=g1 [word/object] exhibits grammatical defined gender/(sexual orientation/sexuality) c3 (ka) in language/standard c4/g2 for structure/text g3 /jongausib 2011/11/7 vitci'i > On 11/06/2011 09:30 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > > On Sunday 06 November 2011 21:07:36 vitci'i wrote: > >> On 11/06/2011 07:57 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > >>> Yes, but what does x2 of "gencinse" mean? > >> > >> Where did "gencinse" come from? > > > > Most Indo-European and Afro-Asiatic languages have it. I guess "x1 is a > word > > of gender x3", but what sexual (or gendered) activities does a word > partake > > in? > > > > Just to clarify: when I asked where it came from, I meant how it entered > into the conversation, not what its etymology was. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --0016e650b20c76361904b1205a52 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, it seems a bit far-fetched, but on a very abstract level perhaps you = may experience some sort of gendered-grammatical-sexual tense between mascu= line and feminine (and neutral) words. O maybe you can use zilselgencinse: = ?
c1=3Dg1 [word/object] exhibits grammatical defined gender/(sexual orientati= on/sexuality) c3 (ka) in language/standard c4/g2 for structure/text g3
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2011/11/7 vitci'i <celestialc= ognition@gmail.com>
On 11/06/2011 09:30 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote:
> On Sunday 06 November 2011 21:07:36 vitci'= i wrote:
>> On 11/06/2011 07:57 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote:
>>> Yes, but what does x2 of "gencinse" mean?
>>
>> Where did "gencinse" come from?
>
> Most Indo-European and Afro-Asiatic languages have it. I guess "x= 1 is a word
> of gender x3", but what sexual (or gendered) activities does a wo= rd partake
> in?
>

Just to clarify: when I asked where it came from, I meant how it ente= red
into the conversation, not what its etymology was.

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