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On 11/07/2011 01:06 PM, Craig Daniel wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 1:48 PM, vitci'i <celestialcognition@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Nevertheless, it makes the omission explicit.
> 
> No more so than saying "ta mlatu" makes the choice to not specify what
> sort of cat explicit.
> 
>  - mi'e .kreig.

Suppose we omit the place, and rely on tanru. How would you ask "what
kind of gender?"?

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