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Clifford" X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid: 1_11325227_AHrHjkQAAG90TrgoIguEMBUXyeE Subject: Re: [lojban] gender Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 14:29:03 -0600 To: "lojban@googlegroups.com" X-Original-Sender: kali9putra@yahoo.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 98.138.229.130 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=kali9putra@yahoo.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@yahoo.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / But fosters the notion that these various concepts are somehow related beyond the accidents of English vocabulary. Sent from my iPad On Nov 7, 2011, at 12:48 PM, vitci'i wrote: > On 11/07/2011 12:45 PM, Craig Daniel wrote: >> On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 1:33 PM, vitci'i wrote: >>> Actually, no. The real reason is because I want to make it explicit that >>> using the gender gismu without specifying what kind of gender is >>> omitting critical information. >> >> Giving it a gismu place is highly unlikely to encourage people to >> specify it - the "by criterion/standard x3" and the like places see >> fairly little use. >> >> - mi'e .kreig.daniyl. > > Nevertheless, it makes the omission explicit. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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