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On 11/07/2011 02:29 PM, John E. Clifford wrote:
> But fosters the notion that these various concepts are somehow related beyond the accidents of English vocabulary.

But sociologically assigned gender, biological sex at birth, biological
sex constructed by surgery, personal identification, etc. *are*
entangled -- not identical, but not easily separable either, and if
nothing else then at least moderately-strongly correlated.

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