Received: from mail-bw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.214.61]:55301) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RNkUo-0006ul-N6; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 04:09:51 -0800 Received: by bkat2 with SMTP id t2sf290695bka.16 for ; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 04:09:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=qCKt69FpI3b2HEL4IqxJm+094ysLRwP/p5wUWrGsfWM=; b=jkkbik5DawXXnikpoFuKsNnn0rggOCI5GyzNoNjxukzWB+NpVPR/FdJQ3T6OkGgmyJ Le6ZnKmOSbHrb4M7l1VJaQDDQieFabgu0OsWe7j/1hvu69TrjIXlvfeSavVu/uzEViBq aUXcTUUgKSqA7rr+nShRgxNvUS0T7jrw6cPpA= Received: by 10.204.140.10 with SMTP id g10mr2250943bku.12.1320754172042; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 04:09:32 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.152.154 with SMTP id g26ls15819847bkw.3.gmail; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 04:09:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.143.143 with SMTP id v15mr1619214bku.1.1320754171013; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 04:09:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.143.143 with SMTP id v15mr1619213bku.1.1320754170998; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 04:09:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-fx0-f49.google.com (mail-fx0-f49.google.com [209.85.161.49]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t21si4037278faf.0.2011.11.08.04.09.30 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 08 Nov 2011 04:09:30 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.49 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.161.49; Received: by mail-fx0-f49.google.com with SMTP id q17so514165faa.36 for ; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 04:09:30 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.112.10 with SMTP id im10mr8477909lab.2.1320754170474; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 04:09:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.152.19.198 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 04:09:30 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20111107231322.GA5077@gonzales> References: <4EB43035.6040407@gmail.com> <20111104233756.GB24058@gonzales> <4EB4A123.7030305@gmail.com> <20111105061247.GE24058@gonzales> <4EB526B7.7070008@gmail.com> <20111105172216.GI24058@gonzales> <1320680539.36060.YahooMailRC@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20111107171940.GB2718@gonzales> <20111107231322.GA5077@gonzales> Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 09:09:30 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] {zo'e} as close-scope existentially quantified plural variable From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.49 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Martin Bays wrote: > > Let's call this "naive kind theory". ... > That's what I meant by "everything which can broda" - everything which > you might refer to in any context by {lo broda}. So this domain is what > you get if you just glom together willy-nilly all the various domains > you find yourself working in. So you've shown that you cannot glom together willy-nilly all the various domains and end up with a reasonable domain. That sounds very reasonable. But this problem of domain glomming is not specific to kinds. A: ie pei no da nenri lo vi tanxe B: ie go'i A: ie nai pei su'o vacri cu nenri lo vi tanxe B: .y .y ie go'i A: ua .i do jinvi ge lo du'u no da nenri lo vi tanxe gi lo du'u su'o da nenri lo vi tanxe .i do jinvi lo nafsi'u mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.