Received: from mail-bw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.214.61]:63173) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RNrFE-0004jI-Ak; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 11:22:09 -0800 Received: by bkat2 with SMTP id t2sf612044bka.16 for ; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 11:21:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=l3AL/K/TosxzVUvPzS1/ak+drDmL1sxq2SSecOeb/7Y=; b=Z84jEM9gmo1piD93vTGEpu9TKb8mQNN8ief9igEMkaSKRNNn/Cqi9WK8LOas4d32qp LqejLlPNufgAl//3huTxPTPOP3XwJhDTT+1qdNTgGi/i5zRiutXDx7ibA+yzQP5w5TjX qYbmUc0IYj+zAhTAeP+L+5AlMenoYDKS9/aoc= Received: by 10.204.15.82 with SMTP id j18mr3252730bka.26.1320780113860; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 11:21:53 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.200.144 with SMTP id ew16ls1800259bkb.2.gmail; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 11:21:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.0.73 with SMTP id 9mr2127364bka.4.1320780111559; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 11:21:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.0.73 with SMTP id 9mr2127362bka.4.1320780111531; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 11:21:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-bw0-f44.google.com (mail-bw0-f44.google.com [209.85.214.44]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ew9si405321bkb.3.2011.11.08.11.21.51 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 08 Nov 2011 11:21:51 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.44 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.44; Received: by bkbzv15 with SMTP id zv15so702003bkb.3 for ; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 11:21:51 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.154.77 with SMTP id n13mr6255019bkw.83.1320780110934; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 11:21:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.41.68 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 11:21:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20111105120106.GK8607@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <830338EE-D866-471A-93E8-993D5404BF1D@switchb.org> <7D27A26E-BA59-4360-B906-8E9ABBAF743C@switchb.org> Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 14:21:50 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] baby words: sneeze ritual From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.44 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175cf9b456b2b104b13e1503 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --0015175cf9b456b2b104b13e1503 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ki'u di'u mi cmila ni'o doi ry ko pilno zo je'e .i ri plixau zo'e tu'a zo ki'e .i paunai mu'i ma jy na plixau zo'e tu'a lo snici to mi zgana lo nu do snici .i ko ca smabi'o gi'e sipna doi cifnu toi --gejyspa On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 12:31 AM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > So, it's malre'a? zo'o > > > On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 1:18 PM, .arpis. wrote: > >> Every natlang I know, in fact. >> >> >> On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Luke Bergen wrote: >> >>> Not sure you could call it malgli when it's a custom in many more >>> languages/societies than english :) >>> On Nov 5, 2011 2:22 PM, "Craig Daniel" wrote: >>> >>>> In general I think having a sneeze ritual at all may be a touch on the >>>> malgli side, since all of them involve showing a concern for the >>>> person's well-being that is expressed out of societal obligation >>>> rather than a genuine fear that their sneeze indicates a major health >>>> problem. >>>> >>>> But when the goal is to have something to say to expose a baby to lots >>>> of language, you respond to the sneeze, as you respond to everything >>>> else the baby does. I like "senci" for that purpose. >>>> >>>> - mi'e .kreig.daniyl. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "lojban" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >>>> >>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "lojban" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> mu'o mi'e .arpis. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lojban" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >> > > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > (Come to the Dot Side! 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On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 12:31 AM, Jonathan Jones = <eyeonus@gmail.co= m> wrote:
So, it's malre'a? zo'= ;o=20


On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 1:18 PM, .arpis. <rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com> wrote:
Every natlang I know, in fact.= =20


On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:

Not sure you could call it malgli when it's a custom in many more la= nguages/societies than english :)

On Nov 5, 2011 2:22 PM, "Craig Daniel"= <craigbdani= el@gmail.com> wrote:
In general I think having a snee= ze ritual at all may be a touch on the
malgli side, since all of them in= volve showing a concern for the
person's well-being that is expressed out of societal obligation
rat= her than a genuine fear that their sneeze indicates a major health
probl= em.

But when the goal is to have something to say to expose a baby t= o lots
of language, you respond to the sneeze, as you respond to everything
els= e the baby does. I like "senci" for that purpose.

=A0- mi&= #39;e .kreig.daniyl.

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