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No, they ALL are....the je'o, ga'e, jo'o, etc. simply specify the context
of what follows.  The fact that we normally default to a lo'a context is
simply convention. I could have had any number of other lerfu, PA, heck,
even whole paragraphs after using "je'o" before using the "kybu" and it
would meant "=D7=A7", and not "q"
                           --gejyspa



On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:

>   On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 5:55 AM, Michael Turniansky <
> mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> 2011/11/3 Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com>
>>
>>> 2011/11/3 M. Nael <muhammad.nael@gmail.com>
>>>
>>>   We do. The name of Q is "kybu".
>>>>
>>>> I meant more distinctive names, as per the example I mentioned for
>>>> Arabic =D8=AC
>>>>
>>>  I don't know what you mean by distinctive. Each name is associated
>>> with exactly one thing. .uibu, for example, is the name of ":)". You ca=
n't
>>> use .uibu to refer to anything else.
>>>
>>>
>>   Well, that's not exactly true.  Depends on context.  For example ky bu
>> is q, ga'e ky bu is Q, je'o ky bu is  =D7=A7 and presumably jo'o ky bu i=
s =D9=82
>> (forgive me if I have that wrong, Muhammad)
>>
>>       --gejyspa
>>
>
> Every one of those examples is different, gejyspa, and illustrates what I
> said perfectly. {je'o ky. bu} is not {ky bu}.
>
>
> --
> mu'o mi'e .aionys.
>
> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>No, they ALL are....the je&#39;o, ga&#39;e, jo&#39;o,=
 etc. simply specify the context of what follows.=C2=A0 The fact that we no=
rmally default to a lo&#39;a context is simply convention. I could have had=
 any number of other lerfu, PA, heck, even whole=C2=A0paragraphs after usin=
g &quot;je&#39;o&quot; before using the &quot;kybu&quot; and it would meant=
 &quot;=D7=A7&quot;, and not &quot;q&quot;</div>

<div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0 --gejyspa</div>
<div><br><br>=C2=A0</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Jonathan Jones <=
span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:eyeonus@gmail.com">eyeonus@gmail.com=
</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div>
<div></div>
<div class=3D"h5">
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 5:55 AM, Michael Turnians=
ky <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mturniansky@gmail.com" target=3D=
"_blank">mturniansky@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div><br><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2011/11/3 Jonathan Jones <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:eyeonus@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">eyeonus@gmail.com</a>=
&gt;</span><br></div>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2011/11/3 M. Nael <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:muhammad.nael@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">muhammad.nael@gmail.c=
om</a>&gt;</span> </div>
<div><br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote"><span style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34); FONT-SIZE: 14px">We do. Th=
e name of Q is &quot;kybu&quot;.</span></blockquote>
</div>
<div>I meant more distinctive names, as per the example I mentioned for Ara=
bic =D8=AC</div>
<div>
<div></div></div></div></blockquote></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div>I don&#39;t know what you mean by distinctive. Each name is associated=
 with exactly one thing. .uibu, for example, is the name of &quot;:)&quot;.=
 You can&#39;t use .uibu to refer to anything else. </div>
<div>=C2=A0</div></div></blockquote></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">=C2=A0 Well, that&#39;s not exactly true.=C2=A0 =
Depends on context.=C2=A0 For example ky bu is q, ga&#39;e ky bu is Q, je&#=
39;o ky bu is=C2=A0 =D7=A7 and presumably jo&#39;o ky bu is=C2=A0=D9=82 (fo=
rgive me if I have that wrong, Muhammad)</div>

<div class=3D"gmail_quote">=C2=A0</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 --gejyspa</div></=
div></blockquote></div><br></div></div>Every one of those examples is diffe=
rent, gejyspa, and illustrates what I said perfectly. {je&#39;o ky. bu} is =
not {ky bu}.=20
<div>
<div></div>
<div class=3D"h5"><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e .aionys.<b=
r><br>.i.e&#39;ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do z=
o&#39;o<br>(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )<br><br>
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