On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 2:00 AM, Sebastian Fr= =C3=B6jd <so.= cool.ogi@gmail.com> wrote:

I understand that most jbopli today are using the Roman alphabet, and that&= #39;s fine, but not really cultural neutral. So I don't understand why = {lo'a} is defined as "shift letterals to Lojban (Roman) alp= habet." I think every alphabet should be equally lojbanic, or? If lojb= an would have a default alphabet I think it should be Tengwar, since that&#= 39;s the most cultural neutral (and also phonetical) alphabet. Anyway, I= 9;m already using tengwar sometimes, so I really think it would be nice to = have a BY1 for tengwar also. Maybe {te'i}?
mu'o mi'e jongausib

2011/11/8 Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.c= om>

No, they ALL are....the je'o, ga'e, jo'o,= etc. simply specify the context of what follows.=C2=A0 The fact that we no= rmally default to a lo'a context is simply convention. I could have had= any number of other lerfu, PA, heck, even whole=C2=A0paragraphs after usin= g "je'o" before using the "kybu" and it would meant= "=D7=A7", and not "q"

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 --gejyspa

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On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Jonathan Jones <= span dir=3D"ltr"><eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 5:55 AM, Michael Turnians= ky <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:

2011/11/3 Jonathan Jones <<= a href=3D"mailto:eyeonus@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">eyeonus@gmail.com= >

2011/11/3 M. Nael <muhammad.nael@gmail.c= om>

We do. The name = of Q is "kybu".

I meant more distinctive names, as per the example I mentioned for Ara= bic =D8=AC

I don't know what you mean by distinctive. Each name is associated= with exactly one thing. .uibu, for example, is the name of ":)".= You can't use .uibu to refer to anything else.

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=C2=A0 Well, that's not exactly true.=C2=A0 = Depends on context.=C2=A0 For example ky bu is q, ga'e ky bu is Q, je&#= 39;o ky bu is=C2=A0 =D7=A7 and presumably jo'o ky bu is=C2=A0=D9=82 (fo= rgive me if I have that wrong, Muhammad)

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=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 --gejyspa

Every one of those examples is diffe= rent, gejyspa, and illustrates what I said perfectly. {je'o ky. bu} is = not {ky bu}.=20

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(C= ome to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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