Received: from mail-vx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.220.189]:35358) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RO7Ro-0003ct-Q7; Wed, 09 Nov 2011 04:40:14 -0800 Received: by vcbfo14 with SMTP id fo14sf869366vcb.16 for ; Wed, 09 Nov 2011 04:40:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=PnbEwRTiUWqLmtl7tROlg1iKkJJ9Tg4Wx9zfxvFiDAs=; b=M+J/KVsHBMNzZ0AogjVIsBXFi3Cqmdaa+gWhxHarQsUzQXKj8y2CQePwK+2NDDzl5x 9IN8FaNx/ae96vZ13979ftisLBYJo6AxzRxoOavFxi9f6pMEUVXL+pKz+HeS0L/Gd4ZI 2oo63rT/Tv2BQ0GD4YNGD4L0G7Ey/OTqR4EDA= Received: by 10.52.94.78 with SMTP id da14mr180207vdb.10.1320842399470; Wed, 09 Nov 2011 04:39:59 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.7.146 with SMTP id d18ls787571vcd.4.gmail; Wed, 09 Nov 2011 04:39:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.52.30.195 with SMTP id u3mr2343120vdh.3.1320842398687; Wed, 09 Nov 2011 04:39:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.52.30.195 with SMTP id u3mr2343119vdh.3.1320842398679; Wed, 09 Nov 2011 04:39:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com. [75.180.132.120]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id bu17si2376336vdc.0.2011.11.09.04.39.57; Wed, 09 Nov 2011 04:39:57 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.120 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.120; Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([10.127.143.51]) by cdptpa-qmta01.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20111109123957670.ENEE22085@cdptpa-qmta01.mail.rr.com> for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 12:39:57 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=H65ZMpki c=1 sm=0 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:17 a=6ti_TD8eFm8A:10 a=ErJTivynyNoA:10 a=v-e_UCCTQVEA:10 a=Q9fys5e9bTEA:10 a=xqWC_Br6kY4A:10 a=2MDWg-FsHpNwsbTLfEAA:9 a=PUjeQqilurYA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 75.176.118.168 Received: from [75.176.118.168] ([75.176.118.168:34502] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id A7/60-13401-1647ABE4; Wed, 09 Nov 2011 12:38:57 +0000 Received: from ip6-localhost (ip6-localhost [IPv6:::1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id B978A21A2A for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 07:38:56 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: A new guide that needs guidance Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2011 08:38:48 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <17294635.733.1320160412847.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqce21>

In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201111090738.51646.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.120 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Wednesday 09 November 2011 05:00:05 Jonathan Jones wrote: > I disagree on both counts. > > The roman characters are used by a lot of different languages/cultures, for > one, and for two, not all writing systems are equally suitable for writing > Lojban. I did an orthography for Japanese, and it required a lot of custom > rules, as Japanese has no way of writing any ending consonant other than > "n", and no way of writing consonant clusters other than doubles, or nC. > Chinese is probablly even less suitable. Some are possibly equally > suitable- I believe Russian and Arabic scripts work without too much fuss, > but not all systems are equally Lojbanic. It's quite possible I'm wrong, > but as far as I am aware, Roman script is the only writing system that is > multi-linguistic- that is, used by more than one language. Latin and Cyrillic letters are both used by a wide variety of languages, and both are suitable for Lojban. Other multilanguage scripts are Arabic (used for some Indo-Iranian languages and formerly for Turkish, though the Latin alphabet suits Turkish better), Greek (used for Bactrian, Phrygian, and an Albanian dialect), Hebrew (used for Yiddish and Ladino), kana (used for Ainu), and Chinese (used for Japanese and sometimes Korean, along with phonetic characters). Pierre -- .i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do .ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga .icu'u la ma'atman. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.