Received: from mail-bw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.214.61]:54976)
	by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128)
	(Exim 4.76)
	(envelope-from <lojban+bncCJ2UzZHuDRDd6uv1BBoEyQ0A9g@googlegroups.com>)
	id 1ROG1P-0002Yn-CH; Wed, 09 Nov 2011 13:49:32 -0800
Received: by bkat2 with SMTP id t2sf1627349bka.16
        for <multiple recipients>; Wed, 09 Nov 2011 13:49:19 -0800 (PST)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
        d=googlegroups.com; s=beta;
        h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date
         :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender
         :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list
         :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender
         :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type
         :content-transfer-encoding;
        bh=YAof6YmVlR3LhKhgAI3RDFM1cAepPDAAQqI4urT4TqQ=;
        b=xtboMtyr4AheP+7GpULpOXP0b71yUYqt+C4TXBQDwXtVeHwosTQPj5+c+XqgTVZOnn
         WlokS862i9/u19B3FdmdO9vnIzgdHr6EvX2oDEmoFEZ6oB/jeB7xNQSFAvoZ0pKaO/9N
         ZcwwXDC1tyG8fHh9Nw8hgF+Eee7bXWQMcaOM4=
Received: by 10.204.18.198 with SMTP id x6mr351750bka.17.1320875357016;
        Wed, 09 Nov 2011 13:49:17 -0800 (PST)
X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com
Received: by 10.205.80.78 with SMTP id zt14ls4064542bkb.1.gmail; Wed, 09 Nov
 2011 13:49:15 -0800 (PST)
Received: by 10.204.148.84 with SMTP id o20mr591102bkv.6.1320875354936;
        Wed, 09 Nov 2011 13:49:14 -0800 (PST)
Received: by 10.204.148.84 with SMTP id o20mr591101bkv.6.1320875354913;
        Wed, 09 Nov 2011 13:49:14 -0800 (PST)
Received: from mail-bw0-f53.google.com (mail-bw0-f53.google.com [209.85.214.53])
        by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v13si1025870bkf.0.2011.11.09.13.49.14
        (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER);
        Wed, 09 Nov 2011 13:49:14 -0800 (PST)
Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.53 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.53;
Received: by bkaq10 with SMTP id q10so2287341bka.40
        for <lojban@googlegroups.com>; Wed, 09 Nov 2011 13:49:14 -0800 (PST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Received: by 10.152.105.83 with SMTP id gk19mr2838547lab.30.1320875354627;
 Wed, 09 Nov 2011 13:49:14 -0800 (PST)
Received: by 10.152.19.198 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 13:49:14 -0800 (PST)
In-Reply-To: <CAKOEKkR_GoR1jygEqrdEGd3jJk2JR3Vc_v0AhMWNuTdPc6auVw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20111104115329.GG30208@stodi.digitalkingdom.org>
	<CAO7tK2cjRvMTkJffJs-JM1V1hkcF8gwGMtSUAMk6mo_Gkmg7Vw@mail.gmail.com>
	<20111105124409.GP8607@stodi.digitalkingdom.org>
	<CAO7tK2fvu8kcXpPgyT5Q2OPzy3sACUMjpGFvnPsfsZOuuj+T9w@mail.gmail.com>
	<20111106053616.GR8607@stodi.digitalkingdom.org>
	<CAPAJj9KDDs6VN4+234qPW5a7O_bQpR3368N=SAqqyE8dtR4wsg@mail.gmail.com>
	<20111107075233.GL21492@stodi.digitalkingdom.org>
	<CAKOEKkR_GoR1jygEqrdEGd3jJk2JR3Vc_v0AhMWNuTdPc6auVw@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2011 18:49:14 -0300
Message-ID: <CAO7tK2cGsjLB9s_3Tnhftt01JZ6VFUV0h9ng-J-nnN+M0brvKQ@mail.gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [lojban] babies: "you might as well sleep"
From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= <jjllambias@gmail.com>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com
X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com
X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com:
 domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.53 as permitted sender)
 smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com
Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com
Precedence: list
Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com
List-ID: <lojban.googlegroups.com>
X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417
List-Post: <http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/post?hl=en_US>, <mailto:lojban@googlegroups.com>
List-Help: <http://groups.google.com/support/?hl=en_US>, <mailto:lojban+help@googlegroups.com>
List-Archive: <http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en_US>
Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com
List-Subscribe: <http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/subscribe?hl=en_US>, <mailto:lojban+subscribe@googlegroups.com>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/subscribe?hl=en_US>, <mailto:lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/)
X-Spam_score: -0.7
X-Spam_score_int: -6
X-Spam_bar: /

On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Michael Turniansky
<mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
> =A0 I agree, but xorxes has long used the eY series of UI in an idiosyncr=
atic
> way.

".ei" is not really part of the e'V-series.

The e'V series is used for the speaker to
allow/exhort/compel/request/advice the listener to do something. With
".ei" the listener is not especially relevant. ".ei" belongs with
".au", ".a'o" and (perhaps) ".ai", it shows how the speaker feels
towards a posited (irrealis) state of affairs.

> On a completely different topic, his second sentence, "i so'i
> so'i da cnino noi mi pa roi ganse cu sruri mi doi tolcitno nanmu" doesn't
> parse.=A0 Now, given that a less-than-one-month old is presumably saying =
it,
> it's pretty darn good lojban, but you can't put a NOI on a selbri, despit=
e
> my saying that you should be able to.=A0 Was "da" simply a mistaken inclu=
sion?

Yes, I had "so'i so'i da poi cnino" initially, then decided to remove
the "poi" but forgot to remove the "da".

mu'o mi'e xorxes

--=20
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "=
lojban" group.
To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou=
ps.com.
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban=
?hl=3Den.