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[173.13.139.236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r5si7729951pbe.1.2011.11.09.23.08.28 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 09 Nov 2011 23:08:28 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rlpowell@stodi.digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.236; Received: from rlpowell by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1ROOkM-0006bB-To for lojban@googlegroups.com; Wed, 09 Nov 2011 23:08:26 -0800 Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2011 23:08:26 -0800 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] baby words, sort of: catlu vs. zgana Message-ID: <20111110070826.GT19979@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@googlegroups.com References: <20111106230135.GM21434@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20111107073107.GI21492@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20111108075231.GK21492@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rlpowell@stodi.digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rlpowell@stodi.digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Tue, Nov 08, 2011 at 08:56:41AM -0300, Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: > On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 4:52 AM, Robin Lee Powell > wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 07, 2011 at 06:44:32PM -0300, Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: > >> > >> The goal of catlu is viska, but it's possible to catlu and fail > >> to viska. > > > > *chuckle* > > > > Come on, xorxes; we've been playing this game long enough that > > you should know that you making a bare assertion like that isn't > > good enough. > > > > Again: I see no evidence at all in the definitions that what you > > just said is actually, ya know, *true*. =A0How do you justify it? > > > > It would be really nice if, instead of making me drag the entire > > chain of thought in your head out one link at a time, you would > > generate the next 3 links or so and save us both some trouble. >=20 > I just didn't think I was saying anything so remarkable.=20 As usual. :D > The first definition of "look" I find in > http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/look is: "to turn one's > eyes toward something or in some direction in order to see" >=20 > If you think the relationship between "catlu" and "viska" is other > than the relation between "look" and "see", or if you can find a > more precise way to express that relation than with "troci", > please do. AFA*I*CT, catlu and viska are pure synonyms; that's why I asked. Ah, but I see how you're getting that out of catlu. Ok, yeah, I think I'm with you. While we're looking at those words, what the hell does "note that English "look" often means a more generic "observe"" mean?, from the catlu and viska definitions? -Robin --=20 http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" is "na nei". My personal page: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/ --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.