Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]:65094) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1ROvfr-0007Pz-3H; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 10:18:03 -0800 Received: by faaq24 with SMTP id q24sf658363faa.16 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 10:17:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=QKdjbjLBo9cnULx26AxlZMGCDRM4f+VohXq7h6hk3Ww=; b=wlfwK66n5M3n0l+7swIt4hbyLMdPNCbOOg+SpFHbdvFMrpZ567axYScux4xbWsQQwM fuUpfU7uT8yyLCxm8HXBBWrVCVxM6D8VNTj4Ve9SG1ktXeHDShXVr4rdlGZFHYzY182K Vqn8kFMjmDBRHtH6RKxOcVl75Z8+9eCU6yTv4= Received: by 10.223.4.137 with SMTP id 9mr195801far.28.1321035468725; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 10:17:48 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.223.37.216 with SMTP id y24ls4012334fad.0.gmail; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 10:17:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.151.81 with SMTP id b17mr1714813bkw.3.1321035467500; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 10:17:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.151.81 with SMTP id b17mr1714812bkw.3.1321035467473; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 10:17:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-bw0-f46.google.com (mail-bw0-f46.google.com [209.85.214.46]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o14si1986200bkc.1.2011.11.11.10.17.47 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 11 Nov 2011 10:17:47 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.46 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.46; Received: by mail-bw0-f46.google.com with SMTP id 11so4533784bke.5 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 10:17:47 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.205.138.17 with SMTP id iq17mr1566527bkc.118.1321035467053; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 10:17:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.41.68 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 10:17:47 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <9431016.458.1320862071475.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqbl36> References: <9431016.458.1320862071475.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqbl36> Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 13:17:47 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Lightbulb Joke From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.46 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c1550bfdc9604b17989e3 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --0015174c1550bfdc9604b17989e3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 1:07 PM, djandus wrote: > So, everyone knows that the most important quality of any language is its > ability to tell jokes. (sarcasm) > > Regardless, in trying to translate a classic lightbulb joke, the closest I > got was: > ni**tcu xo lo prenu ku lo pu'u zbasu se carna lo cukpulterg**u'i > > Basically, how do you describe "screwing in" a lightbulb, and how do you > say "lightbulb"? In my example, I went with a sort of > "putting-together/installing kind-of turning" for "screwing in", and "round > protrusion light-source" for "lightbulb". (I figured out the latter based > on suggestions from the plant bulb.) > > If this is the actual good way of doing this, then I guess {tolzbasu > carna} would be for "unscrewing"? Is this something worth making a lujvo > for, what with using an actual screwdriver? (How would you say > "screwdriver," even? {carna selpilno}?) > A screwdriver is a lupcartci If you want to "change" a lightbulb, that would be "basygau" but if you just want to "unscrew" it, that would be "vimcu" or "tolse'a". On the other hand, if you really want to emphasize the rotational nature, I'd suggest "carvi'u" --gejyspa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --0015174c1550bfdc9604b17989e3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 1:07 PM, djandus <jandew@gmail.com><= /span> wrote:
So, everyone knows that the most= important quality of any language is its ability to tell jokes. (sarcasm)= =20

Regardless, in trying to translate a classic lightbulb joke, the close= st I got was:
nitcu xo lo pr= enu ku lo pu'u zbasu se carna lo cukpultergu'i=

Basically, how do you= describe "screwing in" a lightbulb, and how do you say "lig= htbulb"? In my example, I went with a sort of "putting-together/i= nstalling kind-of turning" for "screwing in", and "roun= d protrusion light-source" for "lightbulb". (I figured out t= he latter based on suggestions from the plant bulb.)

If this is the actual= good way of doing this, then I guess {tolzbasu carna} would be for "u= nscrewing"? Is this something worth making a lujvo for, what with usin= g an actual screwdriver? (How would you say "screwdriver," even? = {carna selpilno}?)
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=A0=A0If you want to "change" a lightbulb, that would be &qu= ot;basygau" but if you just want to "unscrew" it, that would= be "vimcu" or "tolse'a".=A0 On the other hand, if = you really want to emphasize the rotational nature, I'd suggest "c= arvi'u"
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