Received: from mail-pz0-f61.google.com ([209.85.210.61]:33661) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RPiHj-0005ZM-Lz; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 14:12:31 -0800 Received: by pzk33 with SMTP id 33sf5608193pzk.16 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 14:12:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :sender:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition; bh=FYUuBighJ1A3qXSaAnB7a5gjkFVzO+90uuxoe7XVyGo=; b=if4RTuGodWnE2ER/MpCydUeBDwZ7NYZEd3GgeyE9iHWAm5c2B2vIQ5+Myd8i0h24oJ mdh79V/tLGuSgS0hD1KkTpkP28mCSjkoPIa3Q7U/8G+qseETI9niAmvJ0DJYGdzBIYyj t+05Cls8hRhDmBjmS41bmFiGxz7AIM/dXdn0U= Received: by 10.68.62.34 with SMTP id v2mr2560655pbr.3.1321222330496; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 14:12:10 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.19.131 with SMTP id f3ls15881056pbe.5.gmail; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 14:12:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.15.41 with SMTP id u9mr17346651pbc.3.1321222329880; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 14:12:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.15.41 with SMTP id u9mr17346650pbc.3.1321222329872; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 14:12:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from stodi.digitalkingdom.org (mail.digitalkingdom.org. [173.13.139.236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h2si9998381pba.0.2011.11.13.14.12.09 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 13 Nov 2011 14:12:09 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rlpowell@stodi.digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.236; Received: from rlpowell by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RPiHY-0005ZJ-GD for lojban@googlegroups.com; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 14:12:08 -0800 Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 14:12:08 -0800 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Icky lujvo Message-ID: <20111113221208.GP2500@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@googlegroups.com References: <20111106130432.GK21434@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20111112030026.GB2500@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <201111131258.56031.phma@phma.optus.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <201111131258.56031.phma@phma.optus.nu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rlpowell@stodi.digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rlpowell@stodi.digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 01:58:53PM -0400, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Sunday 13 November 2011 11:19:52 Michael Turniansky wrote: > > So, citmle is the same thing -- cit/mle. > > But "mlana" or "mlatu" as a word is preceded by a vowel, unless > it's at the beginning of a sentence or preceded by a cmevla. "ml" > in "citmle" is preceded by a consonant with no pause. > > Do you find "citmle" more or less icky than "cibmla", in which the > consonant has the same place of articulation as the "m"? I find them both the same amount of icky, for the reason you describe. -Robin -- http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" is "na nei". My personal page: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.