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[75.180.132.121]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id en7si4046260vdb.1.2011.11.16.22.13.19; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 22:13:19 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.121 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.121; X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=a9WyBDuF c=1 sm=0 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:17 a=6ti_TD8eFm8A:10 a=qcNGilFqs4YA:10 a=v-e_UCCTQVEA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=xqWC_Br6kY4A:10 a=wJNgPXBUw5Zq5oayqPEA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 75.176.118.168 Received: from [75.176.118.168] ([75.176.118.168:56520] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id FF/D8-04465-EF5A4CE4; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 06:13:19 +0000 Received: from ip6-localhost (ip6-localhost [IPv6:::1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E6A321A5A for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 01:13:17 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] An alternative day-of-week list Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 01:13:05 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <11134151.93.1321473096305.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqcm23> In-Reply-To: <11134151.93.1321473096305.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqcm23> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201111170113.10114.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.121 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Wednesday 16 November 2011 14:51:36 M.Nael wrote: > Coi rodo > > I'm sorry I've been of the grid lately, but I haven't forgotten what I wa= s > working on; it's just I got caught in other things... > I'm here to (quickly) propose a new listing for the days of the week in > Lojban: > Why not have the week start with Saturday? In Egypt (and in Islam > generally), the week ends on Friday, so Saturday would serve well as the > first day of the week if we count Friday as the week end in Islamic > culture. For western cultures, of which I'm only aware of what I read in > stories, ie. Monday is the first work day... Saturday would still do well= , > if we count that you take your holidays the first thing in the week, much > like the relief (or pain?) that you get with your paycheck at the start o= f > the months ;) We don't need another one. We already have three (numbers, with two words f= or=20 Sunday; East Asian derived; colors). I don't know of any natlang with more= =20 than two (Portuguese-Galician has two, of which Portuguese uses one and=20 Galician the other). The East Asian sequence (soldei ce'o lurdei ce'o fagde= i=20 ce'o jaudje ce'o mudydei ce'o jimdei ce'o derdei) doesn't have an intrinsic= =20 start of the week. I looked up the Arabic names of days of the week; they all match the Hebrew= =20 names except for =D9=8A=D9=88=D9=85 =D8=A7=D9=84=D8=AC=D9=85=D8=B9=D8=A9, f= or which the Hebrew is =D7=99=D7=95=D7=9D =D7=A9=D7=A9=D7=99 (sixth day).= =20 Sunday doesn't look like it matches but it does (ri'shon, first, is no=20 cognate of echad, one). So in Arabic, as in Hebrew, Sunday is the first day= . Pierre --=20 La sal en el mar es m=C3=A1s que en la sangre. Le sel dans la mer est plus que dans le sang. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.