Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]:38946) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RR4kn-0006yc-Qk; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:24:07 -0800 Received: by wwf27 with SMTP id 27sf4179031wwf.16 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:23:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=UDJMR4gho27ewwU01lygnfjgflPYraYIMCYZ8/URdSo=; b=0h5px2BOn/zBIf+Be0jE3sOb+mOqBIDoN/AuyT5tip+d4zp9S8x94OMSQGSO5rrtLn XVRj8o0SKwU9lLtApqE0Qgj8pS99fLeEpW81F4mb84etgYNuTx46DeGUo/bderHKs3Bk edK91sNAeixZCqVAU6oi2OeM2TwogOsPWjdVc= Received: by 10.216.131.205 with SMTP id m55mr396860wei.59.1321547025410; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:23:45 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.226.146 with SMTP id b18ls5725025weq.1.gmail; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:23:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.133.207 with SMTP id q57mr707807wei.3.1321547023064; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:23:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.133.207 with SMTP id q57mr707806wei.3.1321547023046; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:23:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ww0-f53.google.com (mail-ww0-f53.google.com [74.125.82.53]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g38si7468198wbp.3.2011.11.17.08.23.43 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:23:43 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of paskios@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.53 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.53; Received: by mail-ww0-f53.google.com with SMTP id 27so2619486wwf.22 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:23:43 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.141.68 with SMTP id rm4mr7241781obb.23.1321547022800; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:23:42 -0800 (PST) Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.182.57.228 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:23:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <11134151.93.1321473096305.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqcm23> <201111170113.10114.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 16:23:42 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] An alternative day-of-week list From: tijlan To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: paskios@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of paskios@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.53 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=paskios@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On 17 November 2011 14:20, Craig Daniel wrote: > The seven-day week arose independently in Latin and Germanic-speaking > cultures, in the latter case at a time when a lunar calendar was in > use which used direct observation of the moon to mark the beginning of > the month (when the crescent moon is first visible after sunset), with > some holidays on the full moon (including the first day of Yule). As > the moon looks full for several days (I am told, though I don't know > why it should be so, that this is especially true at higher latitudes > such as those of Northern Europe), picking a day as the actual "full > moon" date isn't a trivial observation to make the way the start of a > lunation is - but you can get an almost right answer that is > guaranteed to not be visibly wrong if you assume that it's two weeks > after the day you observe the first crescent. That this heuristic was > in actual use is not proven, but it seems likely; this would imply > that the week is half a fortnight, rather than the fortnight being > originally a term for two weeks. > > This certainly isn't culturally neutral - it's only useful in > pre-modern lunar calendars! - but it is, at least, a basis in physical > phenomena. je'e ki'e -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.