Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]:32886) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RR65r-0007aD-VP; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:49:56 -0800 Received: by wwf27 with SMTP id 27sf4315253wwf.16 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:49:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=5DJKZd0U5X8JRrvLxqacLwKuPo/iDyb3pD9AFGrlIjU=; b=ORZ6A9+b+sQ0ffbla1zfHVqudYAFMfN42NHZP//XqGJty6+ivkqXsHjpePTcnJsK/z Rx40y+6u4WYAKojRPYY4gFAW7hNJolBUagJSkXvoNDNzBSWm2QDJl1y++FgOPaKQCWER 9MKLyf/Ri06L//YU7cHv+oaz4lSgndRRHWJUs= Received: by 10.180.92.106 with SMTP id cl10mr5059641wib.2.1321552177716; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:49:37 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.14.24.83 with SMTP id w59ls841314eew.6.gmail; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:49:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.18.229 with SMTP id z5mr2728576wid.5.1321552176624; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:49:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.18.229 with SMTP id z5mr2728575wid.5.1321552176613; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:49:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wy0-f174.google.com (mail-wy0-f174.google.com [74.125.82.174]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u18si14800959wbm.2.2011.11.17.09.49.36 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:49:36 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of cntrational@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.174 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.174; Received: by wyh11 with SMTP id 11so3171845wyh.33 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:49:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.59.204 with SMTP id m12mr28240503wbh.14.1321552176053; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:49:36 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.79.202 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:48:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <11134151.93.1321473096305.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqcm23> <201111170113.10114.phma@phma.optus.nu> From: Sid Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 23:18:56 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] An alternative day-of-week list To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: cntrational@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of cntrational@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.174 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=cntrational@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Obviously, we should switch to 3.14 day weeks. The first day of the week is based on how many flies are born in a single day from a single cluster of eggs, as determined by the Lojbanic Institute of Fly-Time. A revolution in keeping time is in our hands, people. On 17 November 2011 21:53, tijlan wrote: > On 17 November 2011 14:20, Craig Daniel wrote: >> The seven-day week arose independently in Latin and Germanic-speaking >> cultures, in the latter case at a time when a lunar calendar was in >> use which used direct observation of the moon to mark the beginning of >> the month (when the crescent moon is first visible after sunset), with >> some holidays on the full moon (including the first day of Yule). As >> the moon looks full for several days (I am told, though I don't know >> why it should be so, that this is especially true at higher latitudes >> such as those of Northern Europe), picking a day as the actual "full >> moon" date isn't a trivial observation to make the way the start of a >> lunation is - but you can get an almost right answer that is >> guaranteed to not be visibly wrong if you assume that it's two weeks >> after the day you observe the first crescent. That this heuristic was >> in actual use is not proven, but it seems likely; this would imply >> that the week is half a fortnight, rather than the fortnight being >> originally a term for two weeks. >> >> This certainly isn't culturally neutral - it's only useful in >> pre-modern lunar calendars! - but it is, at least, a basis in physical >> phenomena. > > je'e ki'e > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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