Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]:44154) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RRBXg-0001hK-OU; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:38:59 -0800 Received: by wwf27 with SMTP id 27sf5274373wwf.16 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:38:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=6UI2qI9AfBgcTQgMtfrwvoGwZXhojBVM6KJZTbG5oFI=; b=RQBM7OC+e9JvS1MYOSjYfuwGL49fgAWxfVDv+6bnpVyEqgKVJ0msbu58o4txywlFob TMjcuWRskrHtn4YKsj6pscpwsKfsvs6XwFv3LPeYyVi3BG9bRNHM1L3mRBPSgd6gJkZD 64UDHi0bcH75c9ArG+OpgMLL9XvPpOo4XMkS8= Received: by 10.216.16.135 with SMTP id h7mr54876weh.28.1321573122599; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:38:42 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.14.36.149 with SMTP id w21ls1009307eea.6.canary; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:38:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.213.7.10 with SMTP id b10mr210849ebb.2.1321573121407; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:38:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.213.7.10 with SMTP id b10mr210848ebb.2.1321573121381; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:38:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-fx0-f49.google.com (mail-fx0-f49.google.com [209.85.161.49]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z19si36878fad.1.2011.11.17.15.38.41 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:38:41 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.49 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.161.49; Received: by faar25 with SMTP id r25so5132540faa.22 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:38:41 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.105.83 with SMTP id gk19mr488434lab.30.1321573121203; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:38:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.152.19.198 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:38:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <1321501066.64722.YahooMailRC@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:38:40 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Lions and levels and the like From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.49 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 8:29 PM, maikxlx wrote: > 2011/11/17 Jorge Llamb=EDas : >> On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 5:32 PM, maikxlx wrote: >> Lojban doesn't have a word for the dual of "ka'e", so we have to make >> do with "na ka'e na". > > I'm surprised at that! I wasn't 100% sure that {ka'e}/{kakne} were the > correct words for modal possibility. "ka'e" is "fi'o se cumki". The connection with "kakne" is just mnemonic. >=A0Is it fair to say that the > "conditions" {te kakne} are the worlds themselves in which {da kakne}, > or is x3 more general? I'd say world-talk is metalinguistic, so, sort of. mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.