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Oh yay. Now we've devolved to arguing semantics.

On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 7:19 PM, guskant <fotonoakvokampo@gmail.com> wrote:

> coi
>
> 2011/11/18 Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com>:
> > In Lojban, Sunday is both nondei (0-day) and xeldei (7-day). Monday is
> > pavdei (1-day), Saturday is xavdei (6-day).
> >
>
> According to the definition, x3 of nondei is a calendar, which depends on
> culture. The x1 of it is therefore not necessarily "Sunday" that most of
> people think of. I mean the English translation "Sunday" seems semantically
> too restrictive for the valsi "nondei". The lojbanic definition should be
> something like
> "x1 no moi lo'i djedi goi x2 poi jeftu zo'e x3", which does not conflict
> with the actual English definition. With this lojbanic definition, the
> valsi "nondei" can be used in any culture, and the indicated thing may vary
> according to the culture. The similar consideration can be applied to the
> other days of the week.
>
> mi'e guskant mu'o
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Oh yay. Now we&#39;ve devolved to arguing semantics.<br><br><div class=3D"g=
mail_quote">On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 7:19 PM, guskant <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:fotonoakvokampo@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">fotonoakvoka=
mpo@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>coi</div><div><br></div><div>2011/11/18=
 Jonathan Jones &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:eyeonus@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">=
eyeonus@gmail.com</a>&gt;:</div>

<div><div>&gt; In Lojban, Sunday is both nondei (0-day) and xeldei (7-day).=
 Monday is</div><div>&gt; pavdei (1-day), Saturday is xavdei (6-day).</div>=
<div>&gt;=A0</div><div><br></div></div><div>According to the definition, x3=
 of nondei is a calendar, which depends on culture. The x1 of it is therefo=
re not necessarily &quot;Sunday&quot; that most of people think of. I mean =
the English translation &quot;Sunday&quot; seems semantically too restricti=
ve for the valsi &quot;nondei&quot;. The lojbanic definition should be some=
thing like</div>

<div>&quot;x1 no moi lo&#39;i djedi goi x2 poi jeftu zo&#39;e x3&quot;, whi=
ch does not conflict with the actual English definition. With this lojbanic=
 definition, the valsi &quot;nondei&quot; can be used in any culture, and t=
he indicated thing may vary according to the culture. The similar considera=
tion can be applied to the other days of the week.</div>

<div><br></div><div>mi&#39;e guskant mu&#39;o</div><div>

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</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>mu&#39;o mi=
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