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[66.94.237.217]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id m17si1202681ybe.0.2011.11.18.08.10.22; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 08:10:22 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 66.94.237.217 as permitted sender) client-ip=66.94.237.217; Received: from [66.94.237.194] by nm16.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Nov 2011 16:10:22 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.118] by tm5.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Nov 2011 16:10:22 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1023.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Nov 2011 16:10:22 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 17722.13148.bm@omp1023.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 21043 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Nov 2011 16:10:21 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: WIiCWRIVM1kfX_B7d4PS1HULKGDi5fklztK4hcBjlYjCvQX Z2UWDoGhVoXROpywUsZxmg5y2EGyUQ3qZqFKGvIApchtR3h4UYEwAukSecN6 z323iSDStYe93dZTtCpVWDliO9K33DwQ8N.SyG0zLLz1E2tTPljkLy0BIprZ xaSY8gyBe6la8HAqA5o7PqDTefAsiSVKnyBayuxvwdKhNGb2O151g1PsxHh1 1WjshdObVE_PXg5TdJVqsSWKOT7ZAIYY4FopkxPMS6Et1uKAtX84rmJEtbea KrCx2jZbmRSNFaHJeAETlOmAAtySOEqMxpNyPxN8CgZbYL6c7eKBbRbMdCpk rRf9uvPiHCCjqldvXE.lr1XEEjxE2BVl0wXa6h5LQGRISHm2MRR.1qu9zyJ0 hJH93Oidpt3SLzapDNJywVMZgYWREUhSnrn3n8q3Yyxt7KEOMaEYCNucbM4o JEC9IigiJw0E5jTm069ymdiIQzUWhJSohMQmSXmmikz.5DcFVrSoRqTSq0x_ Irs_tb0F3DRARE40ixoH724kD Received: from [99.92.108.41] by web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 08:10:21 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/589 YahooMailWebService/0.8.115.325013 References: <1321501066.64722.YahooMailRC@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1321632621.15657.YahooMailRC@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 08:10:21 -0800 (PST) From: John E Clifford Subject: Re: [lojban] Lions and levels and the like To: lojban@googlegroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: kali9putra@yahoo.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 66.94.237.217 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=kali9putra@yahoo.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@yahoo.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Usual problem with {ka'e}: not clear what the underlying opposing force is.= In=20 a couple obvious senses, Merkel could be male. In others, not so much. ----- Original Message ---- From: Jorge Llamb=EDas To: lojban@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, November 17, 2011 4:58:28 PM Subject: Re: [lojban] Lions and levels and the like On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 5:32 PM, maikxlx wrote: > > {-N} in {la .merkel. -N ninmu} quantifies > over all situations gnomically (where -N means "necessarily" or > "intrinsically", I'd appreciate it if someone could tell me the > word(s) I'm looking for) . Lojban doesn't have a word for the dual of "ka'e", so we have to make do with "na ka'e na". mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= =20 "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to=20 lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at=20 http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. 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