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From: John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [lojban] Lions and levels and the like
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Probably most usuefully the opposing force (law of nature, law of state, et=
c.)=20
nullified.



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From: maikxlx <maikxlx@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [lojban] Lions and levels and the like

2011/11/17 Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com>:
> On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 5:32 PM, maikxlx <maikxlx@gmail.com> wrote:
> Lojban doesn't have a word for the dual of "ka'e", so we have to make
> do with "na ka'e na".
>

I'm surprised at that! I wasn't 100% sure that {ka'e}/{kakne} were the
correct words for modal possibility.  Is it fair to say that the
"conditions" {te kakne} are the worlds themselves in which {da kakne},
or is x3 more general?

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