Received: from mail-vx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.220.189]:40192) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RRRpF-0000r2-VM; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:02:11 -0800 Received: by vcbfk1 with SMTP id fk1sf3601013vcb.16 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:01:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=g9HJUF1WRkA59pCAufQ0rWS6pR84WMMqVRo8A2F4Yec=; b=MzJbLrK8Zw+I0mvADxD1r6v0l3fSTq0VAKVwj/GaR4tj3+1Uv4X1+uNeNS7Zz0Z437 QvnZlnlwUXP1hy3CrKacVCQAK233YizJGUXAusadjTFJvNIsvlY3zLsvzRe6zPPpZvtB 45FICn9pl2LBr5QQkFSheGDUkKzyAYEivlKmk= Received: by 10.52.107.196 with SMTP id he4mr1711002vdb.7.1321635717018; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:01:57 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.101.167.19 with SMTP id u19ls3982401ano.7.gmail; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:01:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.95.20 with SMTP id s20mr1010885anb.37.1321635715684; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:01:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.95.20 with SMTP id s20mr1010884anb.37.1321635715666; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:01:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-gy0-f181.google.com (mail-gy0-f181.google.com [209.85.160.181]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e24si1223755ybi.3.2011.11.18.09.01.55 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:01:55 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of maikxlx@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.181 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.160.181; Received: by mail-gy0-f181.google.com with SMTP id f14so994369ghb.40 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:01:55 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.28.133 with SMTP id b5mr10874227pbh.28.1321635715100; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:01:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.224.8 with HTTP; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:01:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1321632979.43669.YahooMailRC@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1321501066.64722.YahooMailRC@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1321632979.43669.YahooMailRC@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 12:01:54 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Lions and levels and the like From: maikxlx To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: maikxlx@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of maikxlx@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.181 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=maikxlx@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 11:16 AM, John E Clifford wr= ote: > The glorking can be made explicit in various ways. =A0I, of course, take = the {lo > danlu cu mabru} case as disjunctive predication, assuming that {lo danlu}= is > here one of those superbunches. =A0But this presents no problems (as do n= ot the > others either) if taken as local bunches: unknown animal being investigat= ed, > find drops of lactation in lair, so conclude above. > I am still not 100% sure how bunches work (I am still working through that 400+ email thread on {zo'e} which prompted my email on truth-conditional semantics). But in the case of a specific kind of unknown animal, say a duck-billed platypus, intuitively I would want to say {le danlu cu mabru}. That's how I have internalized Lojban, whether that is currently right or wrong. Off the top of my head, the only context in which I can imagine saying something like {lo danlu cu mabru} is if I were trying to explain to someone what a {danlu} is, e.g. {.i lo danlu cu mabru .i lo danlu cu cinki .i lo danlu cu se klesi so'i lo jmive} --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.