Received: from mail-vx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.220.189]:60972) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RRSbj-00018V-W8; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:52:12 -0800 Received: by vcbfk1 with SMTP id fk1sf3689222vcb.16 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:52:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:message-id:date:from:user-agent :mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Co0/zRuZm88sJrjU/p24+MpC8GaKBBy8fgO4NFBuULs=; b=S4JmjLR7E9PafLsq1Y+gyQGdau2f9q/+aq3TUeh7KZ0QNnjtkFnoYRReH/WhO/Kqkd cKUtCwfCfMAdzG+xwR1R+ZXfvFtO8bMG/R+68p/ouebcdu8Y0Vov6irOabT/oDNZH19/ tF48B7oPkzOmbjc9XANG9uUZEffI+qMWL9i1w= Received: by 10.52.97.3 with SMTP id dw3mr1751148vdb.16.1321638722971; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:52:02 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.101.55.11 with SMTP id h11ls6412475ank.4.gmail; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:52:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.101.73.11 with SMTP id a11mr1071569anl.26.1321638721671; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:52:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.101.73.11 with SMTP id a11mr1071567anl.26.1321638721655; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:52:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yx0-f174.google.com (mail-yx0-f174.google.com [209.85.213.174]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e44si441702yhk.0.2011.11.18.09.52.01 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:52:01 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of celestialcognition@gmail.com designates 209.85.213.174 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.213.174; Received: by yenq3 with SMTP id q3so3331022yen.5 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:52:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.85.174 with SMTP id u34mr6782814yhe.28.1321638721527; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:52:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.1.103] (76-76-236-67.lisco.net. [76.76.236.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w68sm1774573yhe.14.2011.11.18.09.51.58 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:51:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EC69B3C.70800@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 11:51:56 -0600 From: vitci'i User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110921 Thunderbird/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] gender References: <1320681459.44222.YahooMailRC@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1320687357.85830.YahooMailRC@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4EB81C9F.4090300@gmail.com> <1320689797.1887.4.camel@fagricipni-desktop> <4EB823B4.4080700@gmail.com> <4EB82487.1080608@gmail.com> <4EB82819.2010603@gmail.com> <35370FB6-7C1C-4B21-80EF-56F2213B58DE@yahoo.com> <4EB845AE.3080907@gmail.com> <1320722048.69601.YahooMailRC@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <7641736.693.1320815625242.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqpp12> In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: celestialcognition@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of celestialcognition@gmail.com designates 209.85.213.174 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=celestialcognition@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On 11/18/2011 06:35 AM, Sebastian Fr=F6jd wrote: > So what do you think about this definition? >=20 > fetyjavnakykai: c1=3Dn1=3Df1 has/is characterized by evidencing male or(/= and) > female traits/aspects c2=3Dn2=3Df2 (ka) of species n2=3Df2; x1 has the se= x/gender > of being male or(/and) female of species x3. >=20 > Notes: x2 may be biological and/or sociological defined; x2 may be a > general definition (male/female) or based on particular > characteristics/traits (biological (xadni), state of external genitalia > (pinji or plibu), internal genitalia (ganti), sexual/social norms (te > cinse/jikca) etc). There are more than two genders. How about if we just let {cinse} mean gender, and move sexuality to {gledji}? --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.