Received: from mail-vx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.220.189]:58348)
	by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128)
	(Exim 4.76)
	(envelope-from <lojban+bncCNf8pM-bDBD9ypr2BBoEHEaVuw@googlegroups.com>)
	id 1RRTHy-0001Qh-34; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:35:54 -0800
Received: by vcbfk1 with SMTP id fk1sf3778902vcb.16
        for <multiple recipients>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:35:43 -0800 (PST)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
        d=googlegroups.com; s=beta;
        h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references
         :date:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender
         :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list
         :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive
         :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type
         :content-transfer-encoding;
        bh=DUANRHqVWqhFo4TwBJb12ND7LlM8EebwhT7AcGQ5jDg=;
        b=EY7ti1iDG48pPFXnmsemLD60PzgCGieUJ/kINaJhjBliGstyHvqIVEksUiMx7cvqZg
         IXNT5qECUU8mYaeBs4uJZ7BtiOBXcU3jMZnQVGfeS/wCRfA1/wC68XiqEdGgfwF0VW6G
         CqQt6W7OQ/OJ1gTdq+dD3zYKbJYI+/VxETdsM=
Received: by 10.52.173.110 with SMTP id bj14mr1881389vdc.3.1321641341205;
        Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:35:41 -0800 (PST)
X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com
Received: by 10.101.2.12 with SMTP id e12ls3870635ani.3.gmail; Fri, 18 Nov
 2011 10:35:39 -0800 (PST)
Received: by 10.100.119.3 with SMTP id r3mr892311anc.17.1321641339182;
        Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:35:39 -0800 (PST)
Received: by 10.100.119.3 with SMTP id r3mr892310anc.17.1321641339165;
        Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:35:39 -0800 (PST)
Received: from mail-yw0-f41.google.com (mail-yw0-f41.google.com [209.85.213.41])
        by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m17si1271635ybe.0.2011.11.18.10.35.39
        (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER);
        Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:35:39 -0800 (PST)
Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of paskios@gmail.com designates 209.85.213.41 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.213.41;
Received: by mail-yw0-f41.google.com with SMTP id 17so2997766ywp.28
        for <lojban@googlegroups.com>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:35:39 -0800 (PST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Received: by 10.182.41.100 with SMTP id e4mr951795obl.63.1321641338960; Fri,
 18 Nov 2011 10:35:38 -0800 (PST)
Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com
Received: by 10.182.57.228 with HTTP; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:35:38 -0800 (PST)
In-Reply-To: <4EC69B3C.70800@gmail.com>
References: <f880ddca-7f8d-4072-a4a7-4a11579143d1@gk10g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>
	<CAKv2tT6Cgu0kFnMFPCNtg-2bFGtDf5nn11xotZTzWKqDzwwHmA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAKv2tT40aGDvOxywYCMkJS-WkE1K_H9fqS7OKd-=7Ujs=i3zFg@mail.gmail.com>
	<1320681459.44222.YahooMailRC@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<CAKv2tT7tTukzyKKCV7cK+MeCN3+zKFu-vD=PQRY_H4EABF9FGA@mail.gmail.com>
	<1320687357.85830.YahooMailRC@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4EB81C9F.4090300@gmail.com>
	<1320689797.1887.4.camel@fagricipni-desktop>
	<4EB823B4.4080700@gmail.com>
	<4EB82487.1080608@gmail.com>
	<CAP=UV6riy58_6=WYP=Lvnk26_k6CA-35TVNkDEGMf6Z0cehruQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<4EB82819.2010603@gmail.com>
	<35370FB6-7C1C-4B21-80EF-56F2213B58DE@yahoo.com>
	<4EB845AE.3080907@gmail.com>
	<1320722048.69601.YahooMailRC@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<CAKv2tT4oYOhiXaFQnU0v0Ki-EpDkQ1htQQhJtjhdyqo4XXkEQQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<7641736.693.1320815625242.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqpp12>
	<CAKv2tT6SgrYYpWK5J7gO0gcssv_k-XLA7qJ5=A0dpG0Xs6R1Jg@mail.gmail.com>
	<4EC69B3C.70800@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 18:35:38 +0000
Message-ID: <CAPAJj9KuxyFy80o0X0E8gjauxf1SELdcefiAvAQ8ArRoRrZAQw@mail.gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [lojban] gender
From: tijlan <jbotijlan@gmail.com>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com
X-Original-Sender: paskios@gmail.com
X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com:
 domain of paskios@gmail.com designates 209.85.213.41 as permitted sender)
 smtp.mail=paskios@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com
Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com
Precedence: list
Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com
List-ID: <lojban.googlegroups.com>
X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417
List-Post: <http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/post?hl=en_US>, <mailto:lojban@googlegroups.com>
List-Help: <http://groups.google.com/support/?hl=en_US>, <mailto:lojban+help@googlegroups.com>
List-Archive: <http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en_US>
List-Subscribe: <http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/subscribe?hl=en_US>, <mailto:lojban+subscribe@googlegroups.com>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/subscribe?hl=en_US>, <mailto:lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/)
X-Spam_score: -0.7
X-Spam_score_int: -6
X-Spam_bar: /

On 18 November 2011 17:51, vitci'i <celestialcognition@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 11/18/2011 06:35 AM, Sebastian Fr=F6jd wrote:
>> So what do you think about this definition?
>>
>> fetyjavnakykai: c1=3Dn1=3Df1 has/is characterized by evidencing male or(=
/and)
>> female traits/aspects c2=3Dn2=3Df2 (ka) of species n2=3Df2; x1 has the s=
ex/gender
>> of being male or(/and) female of species x3.
>>
>> Notes: x2 may be biological and/or sociological defined; x2 may be a
>> general definition (male/female) or based on particular
>> characteristics/traits (biological (xadni), state of external genitalia
>> (pinji or plibu), internal genitalia (ganti), sexual/social norms (te
>> cinse/jikca) etc).
>
> There are more than two genders.

{fetyjavnak-} (female, male, or both female & male) would allow more
than two genders. But I would agree that three mightn't still be
enough.


> How about if we just let {cinse} mean gender, and move sexuality to {gled=
ji}?

Yes, we could generalize {cinse} up to a point where it would cover
the spectrum mentioned by J.E.C. above and would provide a more
productive rafsi:

gincinse - genetic gender
jikcinse - social gender
klucinse - cultural gender
etc.

mu'o

--=20
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "=
lojban" group.
To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou=
ps.com.
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban=
?hl=3Den.