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On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Craig Daniel <craigbdaniel@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> It's a clever challenge. I can't think of anything to make either e/o
> or i/u the wrong answer, but I'm probably overlooking something.

I figured it had to be a vowel because of voicing and gemination
constraints on the consonants.

{i} and {u} are barred because they can geminate and because they form
diphthongs but not the same ones.

{a e o}+{i} v. {a}+{u} bars {a}.

That leaves {e o}.

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