Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]:46142) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RRZXJ-0003Se-Tz; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:16:13 -0800 Received: by vbbez10 with SMTP id ez10sf1502072vbb.16 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:15:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-ct-class:x-ct-score:x-ct-refid:x-ct-spam :x-authority-analysis:x-cm-score:message-id:date:from:organization :user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=BLTU5mn4baSj7+jJ7B/goCPZBCS5/93xidj/YycpY5U=; b=FCuILq19qhAjr2G6PPKcTl0LZnDPDD3AEoqPqj/9mlQZrvohhTbEIkY20U9TxpN5fH sInkBXZOdby18uZsoyea37tJkmhB9n5h+LtgfCtr7tkdwE3hxMuaOp248HA8nMcbQM/P ckQNLYyeIPPGUI0HZJAYECnLULbsMtWwC4zxM= Received: by 10.52.179.3 with SMTP id dc3mr2821067vdc.12.1321665357067; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:15:57 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.81.139 with SMTP id x11ls4973309vck.5.gmail; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:15:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.52.30.195 with SMTP id u3mr7893196vdh.3.1321665356351; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:15:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.52.30.195 with SMTP id u3mr7893194vdh.3.1321665356344; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:15:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from eastrmfepo201.cox.net (eastrmfepo201.cox.net. [68.230.241.216]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id b8si1220194vdu.2.2011.11.18.17.15.56; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:15:56 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 68.230.241.216 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of lojbab@lojban.org) client-ip=68.230.241.216; Received: from eastrmimpo306.cox.net ([68.230.241.238]) by eastrmfepo201.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20111119011555.WIXY4752.eastrmfepo201.cox.net@eastrmimpo306.cox.net> for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 20:15:55 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.100] ([70.187.237.100]) by eastrmimpo306.cox.net with bizsmtp id ypFv1h0072AfMYu02pFvwg; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 20:15:55 -0500 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020201.4EC7034B.0089,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=cdJjHAINPiZBdT+VAeFfLOvj93neuvwrRIGsWSZO+Cw= c=1 sm=1 a=dYDkaTZZu5wA:10 a=LNyRDDSfcIoA:10 a=xmHE3fpoGJwA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=MQZuvjT3xUZLKv0gclfWMg==:17 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=8YJikuA2AAAA:8 a=qXlXyD5QQdqqKTUH_fkA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=dxBpO5_FDU0A:10 a=MQZuvjT3xUZLKv0gclfWMg==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <4EC7034B.9000302@lojban.org> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 20:15:55 -0500 From: "Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder - LLG" Organization: The Logical Language Group, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Lions and levels and the like References: <1321501066.64722.YahooMailRC@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1321633769.30584.YahooMailRC@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 68.230.241.216 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of lojbab@lojban.org) smtp.mail=lojbab@lojban.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / maikxlx wrote: > On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 11:29 AM, John E Clifford wrote: > >>JCB had at least one course in Logic but in a school that did not favor modal >>logic at all. I don't know how well he did in even that one (Lojbab does not >>improve the logic input much). But in 56 years, the efforts to get necessity >>operators in have come to naught -- though eventually we got something like a >>necessity predicate, >> > > Is there a brivla for logical or modal necessity? nibli (which I think was "snola" in JCB's version) -- Bob LeChevalier lojbab@lojban.org www.lojban.org President and Founder, The Logical Language Group, Inc. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.